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Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?
« on: June 13, 2014, 06:30:16 AM »
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Re: Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2014, 06:41:43 AM »
I have been following this in 2010.The Russians do not have the technical ability to build the warship.Since 1997, and particularly since the Euronaval 2007, the Mistral type has been promoted for export. Several nations have expressed interest in buying this carrier.Some design changes must be implemented, like making a Russian version of Mistral compatible with Russian Ka-52 and Ka-27 helicopters. Originally, the Russians wanted NATO technology on the ship but the deal stalled.In April 2013, Russia announced that its Mistral class ships will be based in the Far East ports at Vladivostok and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. The ports were chosen because of their existing transport infrastructure.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mistral/
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Re: Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2014, 06:58:55 AM »
I have been following this in 2010.The Russians do not have the technical ability to build the warship.Since 1997, and particularly since the Euronaval 2007, the Mistral type has been promoted for export. Several nations have expressed interest in buying this carrier.Some design changes must be implemented, like making a Russian version of Mistral compatible with Russian Ka-52 and Ka-27 helicopters. Originally, the Russians wanted NATO technology on the ship but the deal stalled.In April 2013, Russia announced that its Mistral class ships will be based in the Far East ports at Vladivostok and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. The ports were chosen because of their existing transport infrastructure.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mistral/

If this ship works out, The Royal Canadian Navy,The Royal Malaysian Navy,The Polish Navy,The South African Navy, the Indian Navy and Brazil and Turkey have expressed deep interest in the ship. That will keep the French Naval Yards busy for a very long time and the French could be a huge exporter of these types of ships.
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Re: Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2014, 10:27:38 PM »
When the question is why, the answer is usually money.

The Mistral class is an impressive fighting and delivery platform, though neither the USA or the UK would really go for it. Completely different design ethos from the French. We prefer dedicated tools, while the French go more for the Swiss Army Knife approach to ship design. Strong, fast, mission flexible and multi purpose. Going to be appealing to a LOT of smaller navies, giving them an instant throw weight that is comparable to the big boys.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2014, 10:33:19 PM »
When the question is why, the answer is usually money.

The Mistral class is an impressive fighting and delivery platform, though neither the USA or the UK would really go for it. Completely different design ethos from the French. We prefer dedicated tools, while the French go more for the Swiss Army Knife approach to ship design. Strong, fast, mission flexible and multi purpose. Going to be appealing to a LOT of smaller navies, giving them an instant throw weight that is comparable to the big boys.

It comes down to economics. If the Mistral deal fell though the entire French economy would have taken a huge financial hit. Training for the Russian crew begins in several weeks.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2014, 10:52:50 PM »
It comes down to economics. If the Mistral deal fell though the entire French economy would have taken a huge financial hit. Training for the Russian crew begins in several weeks.

France is the worlds number fourth arms exporter. Their main exports is usually Mirage airplanes. It used to be the number three arms exporter
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Re: Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2014, 09:22:13 AM »
Will it have wine cabinets?  By the way, they are modifying their tanks to add a forward gear in case they get attacked from behind. :silly:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2014, 08:11:12 PM »
Will it have wine cabinets?  By the way, they are modifying their tanks to add a forward gear in case they get attacked from behind. :silly:

No on the wine cabinets. This deal was one of the biggest for them


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