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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2014, 02:21:41 am »
Short term, this is a good thing. 

Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016.  The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.

And if you think any would vote for the GOP if they passed amnesty, you're smoking way too much of something.  They want more government, more freebees, and more socialism which is what the Democrats promise.  Passing amnesty will do nothing except give the Democrats 30-50 million new voters.
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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2014, 02:21:42 am »
Short term, this is a good thing. 

Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016.  The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.

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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2014, 02:42:24 am »
Wait a minute... is this for real?

Cantor -- one of the highest-ranking Republicans of all?
The presumed next Speaker of the House?

Tossed out on his ear?

What's going on here?

Oh, wait a minute....  now I understand....
Has something to do with the Tea Party bein' dead.... right?

Right ???

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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2014, 02:46:18 am »
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/06/10/what-cantors-defeat-means/

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What Cantor’s Defeat Means
John Podhoretz | @jpodhoretz
06.10.2014 - 10:29 PM


The staggering Republican primary defeat tonight of Eric Cantor, the second highest-ranking Republican in the House of Representatives and the third most-powerful Republican in Washington, is a reminder of just how volatile American politics has become. And how responsive.

Eric Cantor wasn’t supposed to lose. His own pollster had him up by, get this, 35 points last week. He’d raised nearly $5 million, and in the past two weeks spent $1 million against his rival’s $79,000. Not enough.

There’s a lot of triumphalist talk tonight about sending a message to Washington and the establishment vs. the outsiders and all that. Most of it is nonsense. Eric Cantor was “Establishment” by definition because he was in the House Republican leadership. But he was a constant source of agita to House Speaker John Boehner because he insisted on representing the party’s more rightward elements during negotiations with President Obama. He is the Republican Obama detests the most because he was so stalwart against the president.

So is this a case of the Republican Right eating one of its own to prove a point? Perhaps. Or it could just be he was hit by a perfect storm of anti-Washington sentiment and his own advocacy for an immigration bill that made him a whipping boy for ratings-hungry radio chatters. He lost touch with the voters in his own district and was done in.

The classic recent chattering-class talking point is that democracy no longer functions because it’s been stolen by rich people. But consider this. From 1954 through 1994, the House of Representatives was under the control of the Democratic Party uninterruptedly. Then Republicans held it, by increasingly thin margins, for 12 years until the Democrats took it back in 2006. Republicans seized control yet again in a 2010 landslide. The Senate has see-sawed back and forth—controlled by Republicans for the first few months of 2001, then by Democrats until 2002, then by Republicans until 2006, then again by Democrats. Both in 2010 and 2012 Republicans had a significant shot of taking back control but were stymied by several bad in-state candidacies.

Interesting things can happen in politics. Very interesting things. Right now the only sure thing, supposedly, is that Hillary Clinton will sail through the Democratic primaries unopposed. The would-be candidate we all saw last night embarrassing herself in an interview with Diane Sawyer should not be considered an inevitability. Eric Cantor’s reelection was an inevitability too.

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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2014, 02:47:05 am »
Any possibility of merging these three threads?  ^-^

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140375.0.html

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140376.0.html
well we could but they can hold their own without it, and we get more twitter exposure with more threads :dx1:


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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2014, 02:48:40 am »
The death of the Tea Party has been greatly exaggerated. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his primary Tuesday night to David Brat, a man who was significantly outspent. Cantor spent $5 million to Brat's $122,000.

The media will play up Cantor's loss by claiming it was about immigration. They will be wrong, but it will be useful for the rest of us. Immigration reform is now DOA in the House of Representatives thanks to David Brat.

But Cantor really did not lose because of immigration alone. Immigration was the surface reason that galvanized the opposition to Cantor, but the opposition could not have been galvanized with this issue had Cantor been a better congressman these past few years.

    Cantor and his staff both lost the trust of conservatives and constituents. They broke promises, made bad deals, and left many feeling very, very betrayed.

He and his staff have repeatedly antagonized conservatives. One conservative recently told me that Cantor's staff were the "biggest bunch of a**holes on the Hill." 

An establishment consultant who backed Cantor actually agreed with this assessment.  That attitude moved with Cantor staffers to K Street, the NRSC, and elsewhere generating ill will toward them and Cantor.  Many of them were perceived to still be assisting Cantor in other capacities. 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/06/10/why-cantor-lost/
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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2014, 02:54:37 am »
What a feel good story of the year!!!!  gonna enjoy it while i can, we get so few these days!


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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2014, 02:55:29 am »
Wait a minute... is this for real?

Cantor -- one of the highest-ranking Republicans of all?
The presumed next Speaker of the House?

Tossed out on his ear?

What's going on here?

Oh, wait a minute....  now I understand....
Has something to do with the Tea Party bein' dead.... right?

Right ???

Yep! I think you got it! ;>)
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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2014, 02:56:40 am »
And here come the establishment hit pieces from someone who takes pride in kissing liberal GOP butt.
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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2014, 02:57:28 am »
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Cantor was not an enemy of the Tea Party. He was in fact the Tea Party’s guy in the leadership for much of the Barack Obama era. He carried the tea into the speaker’s office.
I'm not sure we're thinking of the same Eric Cantor.
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« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2014, 02:58:53 am »
You've drank the Kool Aide Sink and swallowed ever last drop!

It's no use. Some Republicans have convinced themselves that they need to make Hispanics love them by appealing to the worst representative elements among them. And among us.

Sure, by all means: let's invite more uneducated, unmarried, unmotivated, and unskilled people into America so that they can continue to be uneducated by our schools, unmotivated by our perverted social institutions, have a zillion more bastards out of wedlock and all vote for Democrats in perpetuity, or at least until the last ounce of marrow has been sucked from America's crumbling bones.

Or... we could secure our borders, deport the criminals, stop punishing achievement and enterprise, and invite good people in from anywhere who actually want to be independent and free. The problem is: too many Americans no longer want to be independent and free. Why should our immigrants?
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« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2014, 03:18:34 am »
You've drank the Kool Aide Sink and swallowed ever last drop!

The Hispanics are already opposed to the GOP.  We can't win presidential elections with less than 30% of Hispanic support. 

We won't get anywhere close to that in 2016.  So all those Mormon-hating archconservatives better get off their double-wide asses and vote for the Republican nominee.
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« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2014, 03:20:56 am »
It's no use. Some Republicans have convinced themselves that they need to make Hispanics love them by appealing to the worst representative elements among them. And among us.

Sure, by all means: let's invite more uneducated, unmarried, unmotivated, and unskilled people into America so that they can continue to be uneducated by our schools, unmotivated by our perverted social institutions, have a zillion more bastards out of wedlock and all vote for Democrats in perpetuity, or at least until the last ounce of marrow has been sucked from America's crumbling bones.

Or... we could secure our borders, deport the criminals, stop punishing achievement and enterprise, and invite good people in from anywhere who actually want to be independent and free. The problem is: too many Americans no longer want to be independent and free. Why should our immigrants?

I'm opposed to amnesty.  But if we don't win 30% of the Hispanic vote, we lose in presidential elections.  I guess we should be happy to control Congress, or at least one House of Congress.
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Re: Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2014, 03:21:32 am »
Brat was out spent 22 to 1.

He (Brat) made it his mission to meet the people, shake hands and talk about more than just immigration.

 He is a free market, states rights, small government guy.

 A Christian as well as a professor of economics and 'ethics'.

 How do I know?

 I am in his district and have followed his campaign from day one.

 Cantor .. like the rest of the 'entrenched' rinos took for granted that the position was eternally theirs.

 Lots of money, smear ads and downright lying to your constituents failed Cantor.
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« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2014, 03:27:17 am »
btw: Cantor was for amnesty (For the 'children's sake) before he was against it!
(Just before the primary)

He also went to the seacoast convention (A Soros paid for convention) that was all about destroying those annoying tea partier's!
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« Reply #91 on: June 11, 2014, 03:30:22 am »
Brat was out spent 22 to 1.

He (Brat) made it his mission to meet the people, shake hands and talk about more than just immigration.

 He is a free market, states rights, small government guy.

 A Christian as well as a professor of economics and 'ethics'.

 How do I know?

 I am in his district and have followed his campaign from day one.

 Cantor .. like the rest of the 'entrenched' rinos took for granted that the position was eternally theirs.

 Lots of money, smear ads and downright lying to your constituents failed Cantor.

Thanks....good post, and I appreciate some feedback from someone who actually lives in the District and has paid attention.  Well done!

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« Reply #92 on: June 11, 2014, 03:31:00 am »
Short term, this is a good thing. 

Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016.  The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.

If we can't get anything done with the GOP in the minority, what will the TEA Party get done as the minority faction of the minority party?

Oh, that's right... we get to feel good about the ideological victory as we watch the majority Party redefine morality and everything else and America's economic prowess fades far off into a distant future.

Whites will be the minority by 2043. Which Party will be romancing the minority by then?
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« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2014, 03:31:55 am »
I'm opposed to amnesty.  But if we don't win 30% of the Hispanic vote, we lose in presidential elections.  I guess we should be happy to control Congress, or at least one House of Congress.

Hispanics make up about 10% of the electorate and if you believe the fairy tale that ALL Hispanics are in favor immigration reform you really have lost all touch with reality!
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« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2014, 03:34:21 am »
Brat was out spent 22 to 1.

He (Brat) made it his mission to meet the people, shake hands and talk about more than just immigration.

 He is a free market, states rights, small government guy.

 A Christian as well as a professor of economics and 'ethics'.

 How do I know?

 I am in his district and have followed his campaign from day one.

 Cantor .. like the rest of the 'entrenched' rinos took for granted that the position was eternally theirs.

 Lots of money, smear ads and downright lying to your constituents failed Cantor.



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« Reply #95 on: June 11, 2014, 03:34:47 am »
This is not some massive turnaround for the Tea Party.  The TP has LOST everywhere this primary season until tonight (not counting McDaniel's razor thin win).  And Cantor was more TP than anything else.

So, the TP did what it does best and that is cut the throat of one of its own.  To prove that it can do it.

Meanwhile, Lindsay Graham cruises to victory.  The guy who WROTE the immigration bill in the Senate.  Some Tea Party clout.
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« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2014, 03:39:34 am »
Hispanics make up about 10% of the electorate and if you believe the fairy tale that ALL Hispanics are in favor immigration reform you really have lost all touch with reality!

You're kidding yourself.  Hispanics favor Democrats 75%.  The few that oppose immigration reform don't  matter.

The Tea Party acts like it won something tonight when not a single Tea Party PAC even bothered with this race.

I'm not sure what they think they've won.
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« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2014, 03:52:35 am »
"Passing amnesty will do nothing except give the Democrats 30-50 million new voters."

SPOT ON !!!
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« Reply #99 on: June 11, 2014, 03:59:45 am »
Hispanics make up about 10% of the electorate and if you believe the fairy tale that ALL Hispanics are in favor immigration reform you really have lost all touch with reality!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- For the first time, America's racial and ethnic minorities now make up about half of the under-5 age group, the government said Thursday. It's a historic shift that shows how young people are at the forefront of sweeping changes by race and class.
The new census estimates, a snapshot of the U.S. population as of July 2012, comes a year after the Census Bureau reported that whites had fallen to a minority among babies. Fueled by immigration and high rates of birth, particularly among Hispanics, racial and ethnic minorities are now growing more rapidly in numbers than whites.

Based on current rates of growth, whites in the under-5 group are expected to tip to a minority this year or next, Thomas Mesenbourg, the Census Bureau's acting director, said.

The government also projects that in five years, minorities will make up more than half of children under 18. Not long after, the total U.S. white population will begin an inexorable decline in absolute numbers, due to aging baby boomers.


THAT is the real political Earthquake.
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