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TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« on: June 09, 2014, 01:44:46 PM »
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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2014, 02:00:10 PM »

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2014, 02:13:43 PM »
Treason, plain and simple. 

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2014, 02:19:40 PM »
No treason on the facts as described, simply atrociously bad judgment.  Some of the weapons Carter and Reagan handed out to the Afghans during the Soviet occupation no doubt ended up being used against US forces someplace else by someone who got them from the people the US gave them to.  Does that make Carter or Reagan guilty of treason?

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2014, 02:37:08 PM »
No treason on the facts as described, simply atrociously bad judgment.  Some of the weapons Carter and Reagan handed out to the Afghans during the Soviet occupation no doubt ended up being used against US forces someplace else by someone who got them from the people the US gave them to.  Does that make Carter or Reagan guilty of treason?

Maybe.

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2014, 02:37:38 PM »
Maybe.

We can't do anything about Ronnie... he's dead, but I say we get Carter and Obama.


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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2014, 02:43:01 PM »
Maybe.

We can't do anything about Ronnie... he's dead, but I say we get Carter and Obama.

You'll get no argument from me!  Can we throw Bill Clinton in there too?

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2014, 02:43:33 PM »
I'd like to point something out:

Flinging around accusations of treason and demanding impeachment or, from really far out in left field, a RICO prosecution of the administration, really doesn't get a lot of traction with most non-aligned voters; it certainly gets the base riled up, but then again the GOP doesn't really need to get the base all riled up (although it does need to do a better job of explaining why we should set aside our intramural differences).  Not only that, it gives the democrat party a flashpoint around which to rally.

A much, much better approach would be to maintain a steady drumbeat of commentary on just how incompetent and irresponsible this administration - and all of the high-ranking democrats - have been.  There's certainly more than enough fodder for that by now.  Non-aligned voters will be a lot more worried about reckless incompetence and irresponsibility - as well as the democrats' general unwillingness to address Obama's incompetence for purely political reasons - and will be much more attracted to someone who explains why this incompetence has gotten so bad, what it's wrought, and - most importantly - what the solutions are to start repairing the damage caused by eight years of democrat party incompetence and irresponsibility.

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2014, 03:03:41 PM »
I think my chances of winning the Powerball are better than the chances of Obama ever being impeached.  We've become desensitized to our leaders breaking the law with impunity.  But, the Republican Party establishment now has to get their base excited about voting for them again - they absolutely MUST keep the drumbeat steady - and steadily LOUDER too! 
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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2014, 03:05:45 PM »
I think my chances of winning the Powerball are better than the chances of Obama ever being impeached.  We've become desensitized to our leaders breaking the law with impunity.  But, the Republican Party establishment now has to get their base excited about voting for them again - they absolutely MUST keep the drumbeat steady - and steadily LOUDER too! 

yes, but they should avoid beating the drums for something that will hurt us - impeachment and/or treason - and should concentrate on what will help us.

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2014, 03:26:26 PM »
In the run-up to November, the administration can help democrat candidates by painting Republicans as crazy extremists. Republicans sometimes volunteer to help the democrats.

--Calling for impeachment.

--Tea Party Bundy ranch militia extremists kill cops in Las Vegas. (Gadsen flag)

--Whatever comes next.

Republicans need to be careful what they say.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2014, 03:27:19 PM »
In the run-up to November, the administration can help democrat candidates by painting Republicans as crazy extremists. Republicans sometimes volunteer to help the democrats.

--Calling for impeachment.

--Tea Party Bundy ranch militia extremists kill cops in Las Vegas. (Gadsen flag)

--Whatever comes next.

Republicans need to be careful what they say.


only "sometimes"?  you're too gracious by far.

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2014, 03:30:44 PM »
yes, but they should avoid beating the drums for something that will hurt us - impeachment and/or treason - and should concentrate on what will help us.

The most effective way to "sell" this is to keep presenting these facts of extreme incompetence, lawbreaking and possibly treason - keep presenting this to make the voter come to his own conclusion, that these are impeachable or punishable offenses - and that only a DRASTIC change of direction can begin to fix what is wrong.  Don't preach it, sell it. 

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2014, 09:52:50 PM »
The most effective way to "sell" this is to keep presenting these facts of extreme incompetence, lawbreaking and possibly treason - keep presenting this to make the voter come to his own conclusion, that these are impeachable or punishable offenses - and that only a DRASTIC change of direction can begin to fix what is wrong.  Don't preach it, sell it. 



the GOP won't get any traction with talk of treason or impeachment - that is simply too far outside the comfort zone of the voters the GOP needs to attract.  Such talk will do nothing more than chase them away.

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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2014, 11:44:05 PM »
the GOP won't get any traction with talk of treason or impeachment - that is simply too far outside the comfort zone of the voters the GOP needs to attract.  Such talk will do nothing more than chase them away.

Agreed. Stick with incompetence, stupidity, lackadaisical management and indifference. Far more damaging to the Dems in the short, medium and long terms.
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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2014, 11:55:31 PM »
Agreed. Stick with incompetence, stupidity, lackadaisical management and indifference. Far more damaging to the Dems in the short, medium and long terms.

They will not vote for impeachment because the process takes too long. I called David Schippers several years ago and he said that it would be rare  next to impossible for an impeachment. He was extremely livid about the whole process and asked again would he ask to be the prosecutor he gave an "No". I also got an autographed picture from him too.
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Re: TREASON!! OBAMA ARMS TALIBAN TO ATTACK AMERICAN MILITARY
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2014, 12:42:18 AM »
Agreed. Stick with incompetence, stupidity, lackadaisical management and indifference. Far more damaging to the Dems in the short, medium and long terms.

exactly.  why stand on tip-toe and try to grab the high fruit when the low-hanging fruit is there in abundance and ripe for the plucking.


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