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« on: June 07, 2014, 01:20:56 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2014, 01:22:03 PM »
I came to the conclusion a long time ago that Maher makes these outrageous statements just for publicity...he can't be this stoooopid!

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2014, 01:27:28 PM »
Like the bearded assholes who flew two airplanes into the WTC, one into the Pentagon and one into a field in Pennsylvania?
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2014, 02:05:38 PM »
I know that this guy is an entertainment jerk, and you are probably correct that he says these outrageous things for the attention.  But...

I have to say, I haven't heard much realistic talk about these 5 in the more serious venues either.

I hear a lot of talk about whether or not they are going to "return/enter the 'battlefield'" and the accompanying speculation about if/when they can "return to Afghanistan?!?!?"  (I'm not even going to mention this more general meme that is being pushed: once our troops are out of Afghanistan, the "war" will be "over.")  The impression that I get when I read/hear these discussions paints a picture that the debate is about whether or not these Talibs are going to be able to, or be motivated to, pick up an AK-47, sling it over their shoulder, and charge into a shooting assault on a soldier.  This totally obscures the point; that isn't the kind of Talib that we are talking about with these 5.

They are commanders, leaders, their roles aren't about picking up a weapon and shooting anyone, nor are they going to be in a ditch planting an IED.

I suspect that all 5 of them have been "back on the battlefield" soon after touching down in Qatar.  No doubt they each have been given at least 1 encrypted sat phone, and when they were 'reunited' with their family/friends that joined them at the hi-end villas they are living at, any contact information that they needed was readily provided.

These 5 are most likely already re-engaged, they are making calls, setting up funding and resources, coordinating the enlistment and movement of their operatives, discussing strategies and tactics, etc.  You know, the stuff that commanders/general officers do....

All this talk about them being "grey beards" and "too old" to re-join the "battle" is absurd.  At best it is wishful thinking.

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2014, 04:20:07 PM »
Let us all hope Mr. Maher has an opportunity to find out how dangerous these "bearded assholes" are. :2gunz:
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2014, 06:23:51 PM »
This totally obscures the point; that isn't the kind of Talib that we are talking about with these 5.

They are commanders, leaders, their roles aren't about picking up a weapon and shooting anyone, nor are they going to be in a ditch planting an IED.

I suspect that all 5 of them have been "back on the battlefield" soon after touching down in Qatar.  No doubt they each have been given at least 1 encrypted sat phone, and when they were 'reunited' with their family/friends that joined them at the hi-end villas they are living at, any contact information that they needed was readily provided.

These 5 are most likely already re-engaged, they are making calls, setting up funding and resources, coordinating the enlistment and movement of their operatives, discussing strategies and tactics, etc.  You know, the stuff that commanders/general officers do....

All this talk about them being "grey beards" and "too old" to re-join the "battle" is absurd.  At best it is wishful thinking.

Well said and by far the most likely scenario.

I wouldn't expect them to be active just yet though - not only are they going to have to get up to speed on force availability, what specialists and new tactics are available and being used, but they are also going to be extensively debriefed and not exactly trusted for a while by the current command. That is going to take some time. The Tali's will be suspicious as hell over their release,and will assume at least one has been turned by the US. It is what they do.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2014, 11:16:15 AM »
Good points, EC.  Yes, they will need to re-gain the confidence of their fellows.

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 11:22:55 AM »
Well said and by far the most likely scenario.

I wouldn't expect them to be active just yet though - not only are they going to have to get up to speed on force availability, what specialists and new tactics are available and being used, but they are also going to be extensively debriefed and not exactly trusted for a while by the current command. That is going to take some time. The Tali's will be suspicious as hell over their release,and will assume at least one has been turned by the US. It is what they do.

As if these Taliban fellows aren't savvy enough to understand these guys haven't by "Lo-Jacked" for ease of location and Hellfire targeting.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2014, 11:52:48 AM »
Maher may lack the beard, but he's still an bleep.


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