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Rochester, NY: Muslim charged with plotting jihad murder of U.S. troops and Shi’ites in western New York

 Robert Spencer       Jun 2, 2014 at 12:35pm    Jihad in the U.S.      3 Comments   

AP, anxious as ever to deflect the focus from Islamic jihad, in its lead paragraph here explains that Elfgeeh was plotting to kill troops “as vengeance for American actions overseas.” So why did he want to kill Shi’ites as well? As vengeance for Iran being a bitter enemy of his bitter enemy, the U.S.? Obviously Elfgeeh is a Sunni Islamic jihadist who wants to kill members of groups that he considers to be enemies of Islam. But AP will never tell you that.

An update on this story. “Yemeni Accused in Rochester of Plotting to Kill Troops,” Associated Press, June 2, 2014 (thanks to Josh):

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/rochester-ny-muslim-charged-with-plotting-jihad-murder-of-u-s-troops-and-shiites-in-western-new-york

ROCHESTER, N.Y. (AP) – A 30-year-old upstate New York business owner from Yemen who’s accused of plotting to kill members of the U.S. military and others as vengeance for American actions overseas has been arrested on weapons charges.

A federal criminal complaint says Mufid Elfgeeh of Rochester was arrested Saturday afternoon. He’s charged with two counts of receiving and possessing an unregistered firearm silencer. He was to appear Monday before a federal magistrate.

Federal authorities say in court papers that Elfgeeh, a naturalized U.S. citizen, bought two handguns and the silencers as part of a plan to kill members of the U.S. armed forces returning from war as well as Shiite Muslims in western New York.

The FBI says it had been investigating Elfgeeh since early last year.
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We seem to be a naïve nation, willing to risk our peoples' lives betting these muslims will turn out to be peaceful.

What research goes into granting naturalization? Increasingly we learn government at most level, for most things, is inept, incompetent, sometimes corrupt.

We need the right kind of immigrants, and muslims do NOT fit that profile.
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We seem to be a naïve nation, willing to risk our peoples' lives betting these muslims will turn out to be peaceful.

What research goes into granting naturalization? Increasingly we learn government at most level, for most things, is inept, incompetent, sometimes corrupt.

We need the right kind of immigrants, and muslims do NOT fit that profile.
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jmyrlefuller wrote above:
[[This nation was built on the principle that "all men are created equal," as Jefferson put it, and we as a country have only grown more attached to that ideal in the subsequent centuries. ]]

But the problem is -- and will always be -- that men are NOT "created equal". As a law of nature, this simply cannot be.

This doesn't mean that individuals cannot "stand equally" before the laws of the land. But it's simply impossible to "make men equal". All one has to do is look around, to observe this reality.

If all men were "created equal", that truth would have been so self-evident that there would be no need to put the idea onto paper to give it legitimacy.

Jefferson was trying to create a new truth from the wind. A noble idea, but just because an idea is noble, does not make it real. Recall what Ted Kennedy said at Robert Kennedy's funeral: "some men see things as they are, and ask 'why?'. I dream things that never were, and ask 'why not?'" As perfectly "liberal" a statement as could be made.

Stands to reason that Jefferson was one of the first.... democrats.

You also wrote:
[[ Rightly or wrongly so, the whole purpose of our existence as a country would be thoroughly destroyed if that principle were to be disproved. ]]

I believe that we're seeing the results of "Jefferson's error" right now. In a relentless quest to "make everyone equal", the unintended consequences resemble something out of Orwell's "Animal Farm" -- all the animals are equal, only some animals are "more equal" than others.

Could "the whole purpose of our existence as a country" be on the chopping block?
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