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« on: June 01, 2014, 05:58:35 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2014, 06:26:51 PM »
thats what the british press is saying **nononono*
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2014, 07:04:15 PM »
thats what the british press is saying **nononono*

No.  The British Press is reporting what a guy who was in Bowie's unit is saying.  I read his original set of tweets, and there were a bunch of 'em, and you cannot make details like this guy is providing up. 

We lost six people to swap a deserter to the Taliban, for five Taliban commandos out of Guantanamo.  This was authorized directly by the White House, Obama himself.  Nobody else could have conceived of this other than one of the three or four people who actually run Obama.  It is difficult to believe that this actually took place, but indeed, this is exactly what Obama himself just did.


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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2014, 07:23:07 PM »
No.  The British Press is reporting what a guy who was in Bowie's unit is saying.  I read his original set of tweets, and there were a bunch of 'em, and you cannot make details like this guy is providing up. 

We lost six people to swap a deserter to the Taliban, for five Taliban commandos out of Guantanamo.  This was authorized directly by the White House, Obama himself.  Nobody else could have conceived of this other than one of the three or four people who actually run Obama.  It is difficult to believe that this actually took place, but indeed, this is exactly what Obama himself just did.

Yep....very sad indeed..

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2014, 05:41:25 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2014, 07:28:36 AM »
Wow.  I don't know if the story is true or not, but if so it is a sad testament as to the nature of war and honor.  There does seem to be something fishy here, what with the father's bizarre tweets and all.  Maybe the kid was suffering from PTSD?  Maybe it was an attempt to infiltrate the enemy?  There are a lot of unanswered questions, not the least of which is this:

What made Bergdahl's life worth more than the hundreds or thousands of Americans who will likely die in future terrorist attacks orchestrated by these five released prisoners?

I fear the answer is as simple as OPapaDoc needs better popularity numbers going into the 2014 midterms.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2014, 08:04:08 AM »
I have repeatedly said I am not going to judge him on his taking a walk until I hear his own words and see his face as he speaks. You get out there, you go a little crazy sometimes.

I will comment on one thing - he left all his sensitive gear behind when he went walkabout. He couldn't bring himself to hurt his mates by taking it with him, even though the Tali's would love to get their hands on that sort of kit. That takes a deliberate and conscious decision, since gearing up is pretty much automatic, as anyone here can confirm.

I agree that the timing of this gives the Worm some desperately needed good optics and the swap was done to maximize those optics.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2014, 09:09:09 AM »
Wow.  I don't know if the story is true or not, but if so it is a sad testament as to the nature of war and honor.  There does seem to be something fishy here, what with the father's bizarre tweets and all.  Maybe the kid was suffering from PTSD?  Maybe it was an attempt to infiltrate the enemy?  There are a lot of unanswered questions, not the least of which is this:

What made Bergdahl's life worth more than the hundreds or thousands of Americans who will likely die in future terrorist attacks orchestrated by these five released prisoners?

I fear the answer is as simple as OPapaDoc needs better popularity numbers going into the 2014 midterms.

I keep wondering why a kid raised by anti-war activists would join the military, and then hate it so bad that he walks away - into the arms of the Taliban.

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