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  I agree
with him
3 people stabbed to death, two hit with a car
and liberals are fixated  on guns instead of laws to better deal with the crazys
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Why do we give a damn what Samuel Wurzelbacher has to say about this?

He's a tactless, classless clown.
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Why do we give a damn what Samuel Wurzelbacher has to say about this?

He's a tactless, classless clown.

Classless? So what's Mr. Martinez? His kid's dead, and all he yells about is  he wants more gun control. I'm with Joe the Plumber on this. Actually, I'm worse. If we can tolerate the slaughter of millions of unborn, I'm more than willing to put up with a few hundred  gun deaths every year to preserve my Second Amendment rights.

And "tactless"? It's about time SOMEBODY who believes in the Second Amendment refused to leave the megaphone to the gun grabbers and their stooges. Interrupts the pre-canned, locked and loaded [pardon the phrase] narrative they unload on us every time a shooting occurs. Oh yeah, think Mr. Martinez will join the crusade for knife control?
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Either side that jumps on events like this to bolster political goals deserves scorn.  Like you, I can't criticize a grieving parent, nor would I use that grief to advance any cause.

I couldn't agree more.

There are idiots on the left and on the right. This was just a stone cold stupid thing for someone to say, and that person is on the right. So, the media will give the stupid comment lots of play. When someone on the left says something equally stupid, the media buries it like a cat burying a turd.

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There are idiots on the left and on the right. This was just a stone cold stupid thing for someone to say, and that person is on the right. So, the media will give the stupid comment lots of play. When someone on the left says something equally stupid, the media buries it like a cat burying a turd.


The media (leftists that they are) can't imagine that millions of American's will actually agree w/ his statement.  The leftists who are working to make liberty look undesirable are the real idiots.  They and the toadies who can't imagine that a life of liberty includes personal responsibility...

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." - Ecclesiastes 10:2

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"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."
- George Orwell


Exactly what we have become...

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Why do we give a damn what Samuel Wurzelbacher has to say about this?

He's a tactless, classless clown.
Note the source: Talking Points Memo. They lean left. The liberals are the ones who care, and it's the same reason they went after Cliven Bundy. They know that to have any chance of success, they have to demonize common citizens; they have to delegitimize their views. They know that the people who made the Tea Party successful are mostly common citizens (Harry Reid's ranting about the Koch brothers notwithstanding).

It's a tactic that's been around since at least the 1960s. Those with "right thought" get promoted in the press; those with "wrong thought" are ostracized.

(And besides, Joseph Wurzelbacher uses his middle name. It's not that uncommon... ahem.)
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Classless? So what's Mr. Martinez? His kid's dead, and all he yells about is  he wants more gun control. I'm with Joe the Plumber on this. Actually, I'm worse. If we can tolerate the slaughter of millions of unborn, I'm more than willing to put up with a few hundred  gun deaths every year to preserve my Second Amendment rights.

And "tactless"? It's about time SOMEBODY who believes in the Second Amendment refused to leave the megaphone to the gun grabbers and their stooges. Interrupts the pre-canned, locked and loaded [pardon the phrase] narrative they unload on us every time a shooting occurs. Oh yeah, think Mr. Martinez will join the crusade for knife control?

Martinez lost a son.  He gets a pass in his grief. 

Joe the Plumber's 15 minutes passed a long time ago.  Asserting his rights to a man who is grieving is low-class, but then, that's kinda Joe's appeal, I guess.
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Martinez lost a son.  He gets a pass in his grief. 

Joe the Plumber's 15 minutes passed a long time ago.  Asserting his rights to a man who is grieving is low-class, but then, that's kinda Joe's appeal, I guess.

Agreed.  In our grief we need to find blame.  No matter what method of death, we need to place our anger somewhere.

And I don't understand those who find appeal in the destructive words of "Joe the Plumber". 

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Martinez lost a son.  He gets a pass in his grief. 

BS, just like the witch in the ditch? 

You take it public, you open yourself up for responses and not all will be nice.


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BS, just like the witch in the ditch? 

You take it public, you open yourself up for responses and not all will be nice.

Yeah.  Joe the Plumber took his response public and is being called a dumbass.

Silence in the face of grief is a good thing.  It's also thoughtful. 
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I couldn't agree more.

There are idiots on the left and on the right. This was just a stone cold stupid thing for someone to say, and that person is on the right. So, the media will give the stupid comment lots of play. When someone on the left says something equally stupid, the media buries it like a cat burying a turd.

That's the problem.

What Joe said was inexcusably callous.  Leftists have said myriads of equally, or more classless, stupid things, but Joe's words will be carried on for eternity and all of us on the right will be smeared with them.

On the other hand, the idiocies of Sean Penn, Howard Dean, Michael Moore, et al, are never heard by the average American.

Like it or not, those on the right need to be more circumspect in what we say.

Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Yeah.  Joe the Plumber took his response public and is being called a dumbass.

Silence in the face of grief is a good thing.  It's also thoughtful.

Seems your reasoning only applies in one direction. 

Blaming guns when half of the victims were stabbed to death sounds like a pretty dumbass comment to me and he is not applying the silence is good and thoughtful by going public either.

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Seems your reasoning only applies in one direction. 

Blaming guns when half of the victims were stabbed to death sounds like a pretty dumbass comment to me and he is not applying the silence is good and thoughtful by going public either.

You give no quarter to the grieving father.

Hopefully, people will be more respectful to you when you're where this man is.
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You give no quarter to the grieving father.

Hopefully, people will be more respectful to you when you're where this man is.

No I don't Sinkspur, not after HE took the issue public and wants to come after MY rights over something I had absolutely nothing to do with. 

I will continue to pray for those that had losses, but I will NOT tolerate asininity.

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While his remarks were untimely...which makes them 'insensitive', they were true.

I've been clamoring for years for the RIGHT to counter the daily ridiculous assertions and statements made by the Left.

Sure, they trot out Alan Grayson...or the latest MSNBC pundit/host in search of higher exposure.  but they also trot out Senator Schumer, and his ilk.

The greatest power of the MSM is the power to ignore.

So when out talk radio hosts cogently break down their attacks or statements as bogus, nobody hears about it except the 'choir' in the pews.  Us.

I'll take Joe the Plumber falling on this figurative grenade, if it makes just ONE Leftist Democrat stop and realize that "We didn't sign up for this sh*t!"

The best way for tyranny to thrive is for good men to remain silent......or something like that.    :laugh:
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BS, just like the witch in the ditch? 

You take it public, you open yourself up for responses and not all will be nice.
I find jumping on your kids coffin to use it as a soapbox before he
is even buried far more offensive then what   Joseph Wurzelbacher said   
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Don't know why we're discussing it anyway.  It's settled law.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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I find jumping on your kids coffin to use it as a soapbox before he
is even buried far more offensive then what   Joseph Wurzelbacher said   

They were dancing together.  **nononono*
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