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Flashback: Obama Wanted to Charge Wounded Veterans for Treatment
May 22, 2014


RUSH: Ralph in Omaha.  Welcome to the program.  Hello.

CALLER:  Thanks, Rush.  It's a real honor to be speaking with you.  I'm calling because I find Obama's outrage over medical care for the veterans is more than a bit disingenuous.  I recall when he first was elected to office, that it was his thinking that since the military were all volunteers anyway, that they should be buying their own medical insurance.  And if this was his thinking then, I don't see it being changed now.

RUSH:  So you don't believe the president when he said yesterday that he was livid and outraged when he found out about all these delays and deaths at the VA and was gonna get to the bottom of it?

CALLER:  Not in the least.

RUSH:  I don't recall him saying when he was first elected to office that since military were volunteers, that they should be buying their own medical insurance.  I don't remember him saying that.  I'm not disputing you.  I'm just saying I don't remember it.

CALLER:  Right.  It was either on your program or on Fox that I heard this.  I can still see him saying it.  I seem to be the only one who can recall this, but I know it's there.

RUSH:  Let me dig deep 'cause we got some updated news on some of this stuff.  Ralph, I appreciate the call.  I know he wanted to get rid of TRICARE, but this blatant saying, "Hey, you military people, since you're volunteering anyway, get your own health insurance."  He heard it here.  Well, we'll search the archives and we'll see if that actually happened. 


RUSH:  So our first caller of the day, Ralph, is really upset.  He said he remembered me, or he thought it was me or Fox saying that when Obama was campaigning or first immaculated into office that he thought veterans, since they volunteer for service, should also pay their own health care. Ralph sounded like a smart guy, so I didn't reject it out of hand.

I didn't remember that at all, so we immediately began extensive research.  Ralph was right.  Obama pushed for soldiers to have to pay for TRICARE.  Obama wanted to get rid of it.  We had it at on March 17, 2009.  But the original story came from "Senators Slam Plan for Wounded Vets to Use Private Insurance."

The Dateline here is CNN, March 12, 2009.  So this is not during the campaign.  This is while Obama has... It is around the time of the stimulus, actually.  "Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama [Regime] is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance."

Now, I just have to interject here that if I forgot that, I expect that most everybody else did -- except the veterans who remembered hearing it or were affected by it or thought they might be affected by it. But it's impossible to keep track. You can't remember every assault on the traditions and institutions of this country that this Regime has made.  That's why is so valuable.

I mean it. It is., our website, is a veritable encyclopedia chronicling the seminal events in this country, combined with expert analysis and commentary by me.  It's a gold mine.  It's a subscriber-based website, obviously, but we also have a free side at, which features a lot of information itself.  But this is, once again, is a reminder, if I don't mind saying so.

I mean, folks, if I don't, who will say how worthwhile and valuable chronicling what happens every day on this program has been? That's what is.  It was a CNN story, March 12, 2009: "Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance," meaning their own.

"Lawmakers say they'd reject a proposal to make veterans pay for treatment of war wounds with private insurance. ... Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under 'consideration.' 'A final decision hasn't been made yet,' he said." We, in fact, did talk about this.  The headline at is, "Outrage: Obama Plans to Charge Wounded Veterans for Treatment."

March 17, 2009: "This next story is an absolute shocker." I'm reading from the website. This is a transcript from this program.  "This next story is an absolute shocker. Actually, it's a two-parter and it's all over the place. It's McClatchy, it's AP, the veterans groups have even put out a press release. 'The Obama administration is considering making veterans use private insurance to pay for treatment of combat and service-related injuries.

"The plan would be an about-face on what veterans believe is a long-standing pledge to pay for health care costs that result from their military service. But in a White House meeting Monday, veterans groups apparently failed to persuade President Obama to take the plan off the table." So Ralph was right.

Now his point was (summarized), "I don't care what Obama said yesterday.  I don't believe him.  I don't believe he was mad.  I don't believe he cares and I don't believe he wants to get to the bottom of it, because Obama wants veterans to be paying for their own health care insurance and treatment on their own," and it turns out Ralph was right.

On the same day, March 17, 2009, we had a story about how Michelle (My Belle) Obama went to Fort Bragg in North Carolina to begin her mission as the guardian of the military and their families, which she and Dr. Jill Biden have campaigned on ever since.  We see how far their concerns actually went.  Now, note the involvement here of Shinseki and CNN. Shinseki, he is at the root of all of this.

CNN had a story: "Senators Slam Plan for Wounded Vets to Use Private Insurance," and again, I just want to share this with you. It was March 12, 2009, CNN: "Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the [Regime] is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance."

Did you remember this, Snerdley?  (interruption)  I did not remember this happening, and we made a big deal of it back on March 17, 2009.  Now, the stimulus was also going on at the same time, and Obama was out saying rotten things about John Deere or Caterpillar, one of the two, until they fell in line on the stimulus.  It's impossible, without the documentation at, to remember every assault that this Regime has proposed.

I... (interruption)  Yeah, it is.  It's a new assault every day.  So Ralph, our first caller, it turns out has a really great point.  By the way, here we go again.  "But, Rush! But, Rush! It was Shinseki.  Obama's name's not in the story!"  It says, "the Obama administration." Since when do presidents never get blamed for what goes on in their own administration?  This is the first time I can ever recall that happening.

When Alberto Gonzales wanted to do anything it was always Bush wanted to do something.  Whenever any cabinet secretary acted, it was Bush. Rumsfeld? It was Bush.  When Cheney wanted to act, Cheney was Bush.  Bush was linked to everything that happened in his administration, but Obama is linked to nothing.  Obama is tied to literally nothing. I'm talking about in the eyes of low-information voters.

I know the media doesn't tie him to it.  But, I mean, for crying out loud, whether the media does or not, when did it happen that the people of the country actually believed that the smartest president we've ever elected and the most competent...? I mean, this was the bill of goods we were sold!  The great uniter, The Messiah, all this great stuff.

How does that guy end up being totally ignorant in the eyes of the public in a positive way?  How does that happen?  We have to trust the polling data is accurate on this.  You go nuts telling yourself every poll is a lie or an exaggeration or untrue to one degree or another, so you can't approach it from that standpoint.  The polls are the polls. People are gonna believe 'em, anyway.

But even without the polls and even without the media, now we've got CBS touting this VA poll today that they don't blame Obama at all for the wait lists and for the 40 deaths.  They're blaming Shinseki.  I mean, how many people even heard of Shinseki before this week?  Remember Shinseki when John Kerry was ballyhooing and citing him as a uniformed opponent to the Bush war in Iraq?

That was many, many moons ago.  So it is a real curiosity, and it's one of these things -- it's another item -- that makes people wonder, "What the hell is happening to the people of this country?"  Or maybe this is more accurate: "What is it about Obama that for some reason, people just do not link him to anything that happens other than the good?"

I know I've had my own theories.  "Well, Rush, I've told you it all boils down to intentions. He cares. People are thinking he wants to help people do the right thing and so forth," and I think there's certainly an element of truth in that.  Now, I think this applies here. 

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Of course he did. Better yet, make them sign up for Obamacare.
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When the caller brought this up I remembered that Obama had done that.

We are overwhelmed day after day with so many egregious attacks on our country and our military that it's hard to keep them all in our minds.

But as the Mom of a vet, I remembered this one........
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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