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Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« on: May 21, 2014, 04:45:48 PM »
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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 05:07:58 PM »
Look for the same thing once single-payer is implemented.

Thousands will be dying and somebody will lose their high-paying job.

Boo hoo...


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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 05:40:07 PM »
What people don't understand is that the secret waiting lists were the Obama fix.  That is how they "fixed" the problem of long waits for treatment...put these guys on a secret waiting list and let them wait until they die.  That is looking more and more like a policy decision by someone pretty high up the food chain, and while I am extremely reluctant to believe General Shinseki could be capable of malfeasance against US Veterans, it is becoming harder and harder for me to believe that he could possibly be ignorant of these lists.

Again, the secret waiting lists were the Obama fix.  He has already had his shot at "fixing" the problem and the Obama fix has killed US Veterans.  The Administration has been paying off the families of these dead veterans no doubt with an agreement requiring the family to keep their mouths shut.

How can anyone believe that more Obama "fixes" are going to do anything??

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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 05:41:54 PM »

That is looking more and more like a policy decision by someone pretty high up the food chain, and while I am extremely reluctant to believe General Shinseki could be capable of malfeasance against US Veterans, it is becoming harder and harder for me to believe that he could possibly be ignorant of these lists.


You simply don't get to 'play' at that level unless you go along with the program...

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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 06:01:45 PM »
You simply don't get to 'play' at that level unless you go along with the program...

And I wonder how many VA Medical Center Administrators bypassed Shinseki to rub elbows personally with the President and/or his close advisors??  I can easily see how Shinseki could be made the fall guy in this while the same well-connected VA officials continue to get off scott-free. 

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 06:06:27 PM »

And I wonder how many VA Medical Center Administrators bypassed Shinseki to rub elbows personally with the President and/or his close advisors??  I can easily see how Shinseki could be made the fall guy in this while the same well-connected VA officials continue to get off scott-free.


IMO, if Shinseki wasn't a 'player', he would be speaking up.  He's keeping his mouth shut because it is to his benefit to do that...

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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 06:27:18 PM »
Look for the same thing once single-payer is implemented.

Thousands will be dying and somebody will lose their high-paying job.

Boo hoo...

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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 07:56:13 PM »
IMO, if Shinseki wasn't a 'player', he would be speaking up.  He's keeping his mouth shut because it is to his benefit to do that...

Yep .. It's called self preservation!
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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 08:30:48 PM »
Shinseki wasn't "a player" and 0bama didn't care about this issue. He knew about the problems at the VA when he took office. The last time he had a one-on-one with Shinseki was 2 years ago (July, 2012).

Business as usual - don't bother 0bama with petty problems. All he cares about is heading off political fallout. When the msm gets upset, he will have a presser on his way to a fund raiser or golf game, and all will be well again.

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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 10:38:37 PM »
Don't know Shinseki from a pile of dog dung but you can bet one thing for sure, HE isn't the problem.

The entire VA is rotten and useless to the core.
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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 10:49:39 PM »
What people don't understand is that the secret waiting lists were the Obama fix.  That is how they "fixed" the problem of long waits for treatment...put these guys on a secret waiting list and let them wait until they die.  That is looking more and more like a policy decision by someone pretty high up the food chain, and while I am extremely reluctant to believe General Shinseki could be capable of malfeasance against US Veterans, it is becoming harder and harder for me to believe that he could possibly be ignorant of these lists.

Again, the secret waiting lists were the Obama fix.  He has already had his shot at "fixing" the problem and the Obama fix has killed US Veterans.  The Administration has been paying off the families of these dead veterans no doubt with an agreement requiring the family to keep their mouths shut.

How can anyone believe that more Obama "fixes" are going to do anything??

Oh I understand that quite well!

And the only REAL way to fix the VA problem is to privatize the entire agency! Period! End of sentence!

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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 11:02:05 PM »
Oh I understand that quite well!

And the only REAL way to fix the VA problem is to privatize the entire agency! Period! End of sentence!

On Hannity's show tonight they came up with a couple of great ideas:

1) Only Veterans should be hired to work for the Veterans Administration

2) Color-coded vouchers...red for 100% disability, green for 50% disability and Blue, etc... and the veteran needing medical care need only walk or get wheeled into any hospital or emergency room in the country and receive instant attention and care.
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Re: Pre-Breaking News: Shinseki fired!
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 11:05:35 PM »
On Hannity's show tonight they came up with a couple of great ideas:

1) Only Veterans should be hired to work for the Veterans Administration

2) Color-coded vouchers...red for 100% disability, green for 50% disability and Blue, etc... and the veteran needing medical care need only walk or get wheeled into any hospital or emergency room in the country and receive instant attention and care.

That would be a VERY good start indeed!


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