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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/18/Harry-Reid-Vote-to-Amend-U-S-Constitution-to-Limit-Political-Speech

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On May 15, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on June 3 on amending the U.S. Constitution to limit political speech. If ultimately adopted, it would mark the first time in American history that a constitutional amendment rescinded a freedom listed as among the fundamental rights of the American people.   

The proposed amendment was introduced by Sen. Tom Udall (D-CO) as S.J.R. 19 and if ratified would become the Twenty-Eighth Amendment. It provides in part that “Congress shall have power to regulate the raising and spending of money and in-kind equivalents with respect [to] the Federal elections … [and] State elections.”

The proposed amendment includes a provision that “Nothing in this article shall be construed to grant Congress the power to abridge the freedom of the press.” So Breitbart News, The New York Times, and the mainstream media would be able to say whatever they want, but citizens and citizen groups such as the National Rifle Association could not.

The American people have amended the Constitution 27 times in the nation’s history. Ten of those happened in a single package when the states ratified the Bill of Rights, and another three occurred between 1865 and 1870 following the Civil War, forbidding slavery and racial discrimination. 

Reid usually opposes amending the Constitution. In 2011, Reid voted against S.J.R. 10, a proposed constitutional amendment by Sens. Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee (R-UT) that would require the federal government to balance the federal budget. In 2004 Reid voted against S.J.R. 40 that would have protected marriage as the union of one man and one woman, which would not include same-sex partners or polygamous marriages of three or more people.

Only one amendment has modified a previous amendment. The Eighteenth Amendment was ratified in 1919 and empowered Congress to forbid alcohol nationwide. Then the Twenty-First Amendment was ratified in 1933 to repeal the Eighteenth Amendment and allow alcohol to flow once again.

But the right of Americans to fully engage in political speech is guaranteed by the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment. If S.J.R. 19 becomes part of the Constitution, it would be the first instance in which a right secured by a constitutional amendment was later scaled back.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) promises that the full Senate will vote on the measure later this year.


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My, my!  The Commiecrats are really getting bold in showing their true colors, aren't they?  The next obvious Amendment attack would be to get rid of the Second Amendment. 888bravo
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This has no legs.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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My, my!  The Commiecrats are really getting bold in showing their true colors, aren't they?  The next obvious Amendment attack would be to get rid of the Second Amendment. 888bravo

Which is why a convention of states isn't a great idea.  Do not give the left an opening!
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Their first target is talk radio. Then they will move to shut down sites like this and eventually attempt to intimidate Fox News.
 
The ultimate idea in this is that if I come on a web site and write something like, "I really like Ted Cruz." Then that would be considered what they are calling 'political speech' and would therefore be under the oversight of the FEC, with all the crap and headache that would rain down on the owner of the site. It is some real deal naziesque crap.
 
Of course none of these rules would apply to Liberal sites or to Democrats because the rules or laws never do.
 
But yes, there is no longer even a pretense of respect for the American system of government. The current administration is going full bore to establish a Cuban-ish style of communist authoritarianism.
 
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Their first target is talk radio. Then they will move to shut down sites like this and eventually attempt to intimidate Fox News.
 
The ultimate idea in this is that if I come on a web site and write something like, "I really like Ted Cruz." Then that would be considered what they are calling 'political speech' and would therefore be under the oversight of the FEC, with all the crap and headache that would rain down on the owner of the site. It is some real deal naziesque crap.
 
Of course none of these rules would apply to Liberal sites or to Democrats because the rules or laws never do.
 
But yes, there is no longer even a pretense of respect for the American system of government. The current administration is going full bore to establish a Cuban-ish style of communist authoritarianism.
 
Welcome to the third world everyone. We have arrived.

Well since many here believe there's absolutely no difference between Republicans and Democrats, I guess it will pass the Senate 100 to 0.   :pondering:
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Well since many here believe there's absolutely no difference between Republicans and Democrats, I guess it will pass the Senate 100 to 0.   :pondering:

DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!

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Well since many here believe there's absolutely no difference between Republicans and Democrats, I guess it will pass the Senate 100 to 0.   :pondering:

I get and understand your point, but that is not how it works. What they do is work out between them who is going to vote which way. I was proud of how the Pubs voted on Obamacare, but that is a rare situation.
 
Normally they negotiate and know what the vote is going to be and who is going to vote which way for their political self-interest. That is what all the deals and pork is all about.
 
It is in all of their interests to work with each other, more or less, and to keep the game going. I'll vote for this if you will vote for that. Otherwise the Republicans would have no threat to extort favors.
 
You actually make a very good point in that if there was a vote like that then the gig would be up. They have to keep it respectable. But in the end, the Democrats almost always get whatever they want. No matter what.
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You actually make a very good point in that if there was a vote like that then the gig would be up. They have to keep it respectable. But in the end, the Democrats almost always get whatever they want. No matter what.

MAC knows that. He or she isn't looking for education. MAC simply wants to poke people like me in the eye. And then wonder why he or she is treated rudely from time to time. MAC has very liberal sensibilities.

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People that sit on the 99 yard line, think somebody on the 85 yard line is on the enemy's side.

 

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DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!

(I stole that)

Yes, you did.   A little bit...a little bit.   LOL!
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MAC knows that. He or she isn't looking for education. MAC simply wants to poke people like me in the eye. And then wonder why he or she is treated rudely from time to time. MAC has very liberal sensibilities.

Or a low tolerance for BS.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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Or a low tolerance for BS.

Took the words right out of my mouth.......  :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"If you want to change the world, go home and love your family".    ...Mother Teresa

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People that sit on the 99 yard line, think somebody on the 85 yard line is on the enemy's side.

C'mon, if you're going to bash, at least be clever about it.
(Hint, there is no 99 yard line).

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Or a low tolerance for BS.

Or an inability to distinguish? An opinion that doesn't fit with one's view of the political spectrum is BS?
Or perhaps that's the intolerance you seek?

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C'mon, if you're going to bash, at least be clever about it.
(Hint, there is no 99 yard line).

I think goes People on the 1 yard line think that people on the 10 yard line are playing for the other side. Well, yes, that is usually how it works.
 
Unless we are playing Rugby that is. Oh wait, no, it would be the same thing.
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This is Harry Reid reverting to type....liberals are all about banning anything they consider politically incorrect, and speech heads the top of their list.  This is instructive for those who have open eyes and ears, because this US Senator is most certainly not about Freedom.

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MAC knows that. He or she isn't looking for education. MAC simply wants to poke people like me in the eye. And then wonder why he or she is treated rudely from time to time. MAC has very liberal sensibilities.

Actually JR, you're the only one here who has been out-and-out rude at least with respect to me.  And I certainly won't look to the likes of you to tell me anything about conservatism.  And if you want me to  :nometalk:, then talk to the owners, not me.
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Actually JR, you're the only one here who has been out-and-out rude at least with respect to me.  And I certainly won't look to the likes of you to tell me anything about conservatism.  And if you want me to  :nometalk:, then talk to the owners, not me.

Nope, simply pointing out that your post was a sarcastic bash.
Where am I wrong?

If you see that as rude, sorry, reality bites for some people.

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Nope, simply pointing out that your post was a sarcastic bash.
Where am I wrong?

If you see that as rude, sorry, reality bites for some people.

Yeah, it's tough facing such reality.   8888crybaby
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Or an inability to distinguish? An opinion that doesn't fit with one's view of the political spectrum is BS?
Or perhaps that's the intolerance you seek?

Mac and I know BS when we smell it.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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Took the words right out of my mouth.......  :laugh:

Meatloaf, 1977
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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Mac and I know BS when we smell it.

And I know maggots when I see them.

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Meatloaf, 1977

 
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And I know maggots when I see them.

You should,  88devil
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