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« on: May 18, 2014, 09:09:45 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 10:33:21 AM »
I listened to Michael Savage years ago but his shows contained far too much BS.  Gave up long before this set of rumbles hit the air waves.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2014, 01:26:32 PM »
I don't know why people didn't investigate Savage's claims about how he was destroying Hannity. Hannity moved to stations that weren't as powerful as Savage's stations. Some things that I disagree with Lord on are that Hannity should still be beating Savage in NY, even though he moved to WOR. WOR and WABC have have same power, and Hannity had been on in afternoons since the late 90's. The author also leaves out that although Savage has lost 50% of Hannity's WABC audience, Hannity's numbers weren't great anymore like they were after 9/11. He wasn't doing great with advertisers. When Bob Grant was fired from WABC in 1996, half of WABC's audience went with him to WOR. Eventually his rating declined, but not when he moved over.

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2014, 01:47:46 PM »
Personally, I've grown tired of Sean Hannity.

IMO, Michael Savage is a breath of fresh air.  He covers interesting topics that Sean would never touch.

....and his bumper music is cooler.   LOL!
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2014, 02:51:57 PM »
I never did like Savage.  He's the loud guy at the end of the bar but with a microphone. And he has no unwavering conservative philosophy, as he tends to be all over the place depending on his mood - or medication. I remember him using at least a week of his show calling for the impeachment of George W. Bush, and when I tuned in a few weeks later he said President bush was the best President of his lifetime. He also lashes out at other conservative talk show host, calling them frauds and imposters, and he has developed a derogatory name he uses for each, like Hush Bimbo.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2014, 03:22:43 PM »
When I am writing code at work I listen to Hannity only because he comes on after Rush. He does get annoying after a while.
 
I know this sounds crazy, and I don't blame you for thinking that.
 
But from listening to him, I expect that he will move to Florida, establish residence, and then run for some kind of office. That is my take on him.
 
Savage is a nutball, but, who cares? That loud mouth at the end of the bar makes the place fun. He is fun and engaging, which is exactly what he is supposed to be. When he gets on my nerves I just click the off button.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2014, 03:58:53 PM »

 
Savage is a nutball, but, who cares? That loud mouth at the end of the bar makes the place fun. He is fun and engaging, which is exactly what he is supposed to be. When he gets on my nerves I just click the off button.


That's the way I feel....but while Hannity (who followed Rush) would discuss the EXACT same topics as el Rushbo, Savage has topics and many life-stories that are pertinent and engaging.

Like you said, when the gets "out there", it's time to listen to Sports-talk about my NATS and Orioles.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2014, 07:41:29 PM »
I don't know why people didn't investigate Savage's claims about how he was destroying Hannity. Hannity moved to stations that weren't as powerful as Savage's stations. Some things that I disagree with Lord on are that Hannity should still be beating Savage in NY, even though he moved to WOR. WOR and WABC have have same power, and Hannity had been on in afternoons since the late 90's. The author also leaves out that although Savage has lost 50% of Hannity's WABC audience, Hannity's numbers weren't great anymore like they were after 9/11. He wasn't doing great with advertisers. When Bob Grant was fired from WABC in 1996, half of WABC's audience went with him to WOR. Eventually his rating declined, but not when he moved over.
It's also still early on. Realize in most of these markets that Savage still has the Rush lead-in; Cumulus kept Rush on most of their stations, despite all their initial threats to the contrary. In Dallas, Hannity's relegated to a Salem station, and they get almost no listeners. If Savage still has Rush and is still hemorrhaging listeners, that's not good. Savage is crowing about ratings between 1.0 and 1.5; those are laughably pathetic, low-end ratings. If it weren't for the fact that right now, WOR and the others are even lower, it would be nothing to celebrate.

What will be telling is if WOR and KEIB (the LA station for Rush/Hannity) can start building their stars' audiences back up to where they were at WABC. WOR doesn't even have a permanent morning show yet (they were going to try and pipe in some shock-jock from DC; thankfully, they realized how dumb of an idea that was and never did follow through). In my opinion, they should have kept the relatively well-regarded Jim Quinn on the Clear Channel payroll instead of dumping him last November. Quinn was popular in the markets he aired.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2014, 08:02:09 PM »
Radio is no longer a broadcast idustry. With streaming like 'I heart radio', the idea of power and range is no longer an issue. I listen to New York and Los Angles, and Cincinnati and Alaska without ever leaving my desk.
 
My understanding is that streaming is not counted in the ratings. If that is true then all the numbers are bogus.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2014, 08:05:27 PM »
I never did like Savage.  He's the loud guy at the end of the bar but with a microphone. And he has no unwavering conservative philosophy, as he tends to be all over the place depending on his mood - or medication. I remember him using at least a week of his show calling for the impeachment of George W. Bush, and when I tuned in a few weeks later he said President bush was the best President of his lifetime. He also lashes out at other conservative talk show host, calling them frauds and imposters, and he has developed a derogatory name he uses for each, like Hush Bimbo.

You nailed it...Savage is on the other sticky end of the same stick opposite Don Imus....Yin for one another's Yang.....

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2014, 08:39:46 PM »
Radio is no longer a broadcast idustry. With streaming like 'I heart radio', the idea of power and range is no longer an issue. I listen to New York and Los Angles, and Cincinnati and Alaska without ever leaving my desk.
 
My understanding is that streaming is not counted in the ratings. If that is true then all the numbers are bogus.
There is truth to that, although iHeart includes all the Cumulus and Clear Channel outlets, so it should have data on most of Savage's and Hannity's affiliates, especially the major ones. Unlike Nielsen (which measures the ratings for terrestrial radio), I don't think iHeart makes their listener data public-- but certainly they do have it.

I know there were a couple sites out there that kept track of things but I'm not sure they do that anymore.
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