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GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« on: May 12, 2014, 09:09:27 AM »

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 09:31:45 AM »
I'm going by what I see, and what I see says that the Republicans don't want to win in November.

They are killing themselves trying to get amnesty passed.
They don't want to hammer on obamacare, because they want obamacare.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2014, 09:34:33 AM »
GOP goes quiet on.....just about everything.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2014, 09:47:49 AM »
I'm going by what I see, and what I see says that the Republicans don't want to win in November.

They are killing themselves trying to get amnesty passed.
They don't want to hammer on obamacare, because they want obamacare.

The term you are looking for is 'controlled opposition'.

They give the appearance of opposition but compromise on all of the key issues.

Anyone who thinks the GOP is going to 'save the country' hasn't been paying attention for the past 100 years or so...

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2014, 10:01:53 AM »
The term you are looking for is 'controlled opposition'.

They give the appearance of opposition but compromise on all of the key issues.

Anyone who thinks the GOP is going to 'save the country' hasn't been paying attention for the past 100 years or so...

When Boehner, the Democrats, and most of the GOP establishment went on their big island vacation with Soros, that said it all. They are all working for the same people, and ain't us.
 
Boehner is the quintessential Caspar Milquetoast character, crying and self flagellating himself with every step he takes.
 
Nothing, nothing at all will ever change no matter who is running the circus until the entire government is replaced. I am not sure what it would take to make that happen. They are all the same, and the are all playing us for fools.
 
But yes. It is clear that the GOP establishment would rather elect Democrats (at least Democrats know the rules and play the game) before they would elect anyone who is independent, or anyone who is not in their country club.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2014, 10:06:07 AM »

When Boehner, the Democrats, and most of the GOP establishment went on their big island vacation with Soros, that said it all. They are all working for the same people, and ain't us.
 
Boehner is the quintessential Caspar Milquetoast character, crying and self flagellating himself with every step he takes.
 
Nothing, nothing at all will ever change no matter who is running the circus until the entire government is replaced. I am not sure what it would take to make that happen. They are all the same, and the are all playing us for fools.
 
But yes. It is clear that the GOP establishment would rather elect Democrats (at least Democrats know the rules and play the game) before they would elect anyone who is independent, or anyone who is not in their country club.

Unfortunately, what it will take is exactly what's coming. Collapse, extreme hard times. Americans are comfortable and uncaring. When reality smacks them and requires serious, compromising life choices, then things will change. Not a second before. We are headed to a very bad place, and it's an unalterable course.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2014, 10:10:15 AM »
The term you are looking for is 'controlled opposition'.

They give the appearance of opposition but compromise on all of the key issues.

Anyone who thinks the GOP is going to 'save the country' hasn't been paying attention for the past 100 years or so...

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2014, 10:11:10 AM »
The term you are looking for is 'controlled opposition'.

They give the appearance of opposition but compromise on all of the key issues.

Anyone who thinks the GOP is going to 'save the country' hasn't been paying attention for the past 100 years or so...

I have to agree with you Dan.  Anyone can see by the GOP's actions that they do NOT want to win!  You would have to be delusional to think that they do.  Actions speak way louder than words.  The GOP thinks they have pretty much defeated that very terrible Tea Party - so they won't have to pound their fists and make all that noise now.  They can go back to business-as-usual. 

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2014, 10:11:56 AM »

When Boehner, the Democrats, and most of the GOP establishment went on their big island vacation with Soros, that said it all. They are all working for the same people, and ain't us.


Yep, and Soros is a good example ...
 
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Nothing, nothing at all will ever change no matter who is running the circus until the entire government is replaced. I am not sure what it would take to make that happen. They are all the same, and the are all playing us for fools.
 
But yes. It is clear that the GOP establishment would rather elect Democrats (at least Democrats know the rules and play the game) before they would elect anyone who is independent, or anyone who is not in their country club.

I don't think replacing the government would change anything.  The same people would still run things and you don't get to play unless you play along.  Get too far out of control and a bad case of lead poisoning will come your way...

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2014, 10:16:59 AM »
The GOP thinks they have pretty much defeated that very terrible Tea Party - so they won't have to pound their fists and make all that noise now.  They can go back to business-as-usual.

The Tea Party is full of great people, but it has already been compromised.

All you have to do is look at Rubio's comments wrt the Ukraine and Russia. 

The Nuland tapes showed that the U.S. was doing the bidding of her masters, yet the Russians are the 'bad guys'?

Marco's either uninformed or compromised.  I vote 'compromised'.

As I said, you just don't get to stay at that level unless you play along...
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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2014, 10:24:02 AM »
I'm going by what I see, and what I see says that the Republicans don't want to win in November.

They are killing themselves trying to get amnesty passed.
They don't want to hammer on obamacare, because they want obamacare.

That's not my take, Relic.

Obamacare is a lit fuse.   A looooooong fuse.

Time to focus on scandals......
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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2014, 10:25:03 AM »
The American system of government was founded on the idea that people are moral and will behave honorably. When those principles are undermined, then government becomes a nothing more than a criminal organization, as we have today.
 
These government people are living to get paid and nothing more than that. As long as they keep getting paid (with our money BTW) then they will continue to rever and even worship the status-quo at any cost. Nothing must change. Everything has to stay exactly the same no matter what.
 
They have a great life. They get paid upward of 50% more than anyone in the real society. They get world class heath care, dental, pensions, enormous paid vacations that a real worker couldn't even dream of. They are living like gods, on our backs. Of course they don't want anything to change. Why would they? They have it made.
 
It is a sad way to live, in my opinion, when your entire life is dedicated to nothing more than immediate self interests. But, that is how those people live. I don't know how they sleep at night, knowing that they are nothing more than thieves and criminals. 
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2014, 10:30:07 AM »

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These government people are living to get paid and nothing more than that. As long as they keep getting paid (with our money BTW) then they will continue to rever and even worship the status-quo at any cost. Nothing must change. Everything has to stay exactly the same no matter what.

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OUr culture has eroded to the point where to suggest a member of the political class should put something above self interest is met with derision, even on conservative sites.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2014, 10:31:35 AM »
That's not my take, Relic.

Obamacare is a lit fuse.   A looooooong fuse.

Time to focus on scandals......

We disagree. A member of the GOP let slip the real agenda when she said obamacare can't be repealed.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2014, 10:44:52 AM »
We disagree. A member of the GOP let slip the real agenda when she said obamacare can't be repealed.

A non-ranking Republican in a local interview.   One person's opinion stated publicly doesn't make it so.

Why harp and complain about a terminal disease that has infected your opponent?   

But in the meantime, there are other topics out there that are opening up many eyes about this regime....and DEMS in gerenal.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2014, 10:50:30 AM »
But in the meantime, there are other topics out there that are opening up many eyes about this regime....and DEMS in gerenal.

I don't see that, nor do I hear it. I use my moderate friends as a barometer. While they get a vague feeling that Obama isn't all that they thought he was, they're totally convinced ANY Republican would be worse.

I almost dismiss any news that isn't from an MSM outlet. Not because it isn't true, but because if it doesn't come from the MSM, many, (most?), Americans don't know about it.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2014, 11:05:49 AM »
I don't see that, nor do I hear it. I use my moderate friends as a barometer. While they get a vague feeling that Obama isn't all that they thought he was, they're totally convinced ANY Republican would be worse.

I almost dismiss any news that isn't from an MSM outlet. Not because it isn't true, but because if it doesn't come from the MSM, many, (most?), Americans don't know about it.

Will agree with you, Relic.

However, the price of food, shelter and clothing don't need headlines or speeches to drive home that "something is rotten" in Washington.

Like MLK, I too, have a dream.

That the Republican POTUS candidate will speak to these trampled families....filled with optimism and a patriotic message.

And he'll say it both in English and Spanish....without a teleprompter.
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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 11:19:29 AM »
I use my moderate friends as a barometer. While they get a vague feeling that Obama isn't all that they thought he was, they're totally convinced ANY Republican would be worse.


And those are the people who will vote...

                                                     

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2014, 11:26:52 AM »
And those are the people who will vote...

                                                     

Why does it matter if a Democrat or Republican wins when we have already established that they're both working for the same people?
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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2014, 11:28:16 AM »
Why does it matter if a Democrat or Republican wins when we have already established that they're both working for the same people?

Bush or Obama?

How fast do you want to 'circle the bowl'?

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2014, 11:30:34 AM »
Bush or Obama?

How fast do you want to 'circle the bowl'?

So do you believe Republicans are less corrupt, but only slightly? It seems more likely to me than the entire thing is bought and paid for and little more than a show to keep the masses placated.
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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2014, 11:34:50 AM »
Will agree with you, Relic.

However, the price of food, shelter and clothing don't need headlines or speeches to drive home that "something is rotten" in Washington.

Like MLK, I too, have a dream.

That the Republican POTUS candidate will speak to these trampled families....filled with optimism and a patriotic message.

And he'll say it both in English and Spanish....without a teleprompter.

Unfortunately, the Democrats/Media control the microphone.  Even when the cost of living gets to be unbearable to ordinary working Americans - guess who will get the blame?  Those old meany Republicans that are blocking everything Obama and the Democrats are trying to do for us!  Even when it is staring us right in the face - the typical American will not see it - because Obama is telling us, "Who are you going to believe, ME or your lying eyes?"

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2014, 11:37:36 AM »
Unfortunately, the Democrats/Media control the microphone.  Even when the cost of living gets to be unbearable to ordinary working Americans - guess who will get the blame?  Those old meany Republicans that are blocking everything Obama and the Democrats are trying to do for us!  Even when it is staring us right in the face - the typical American will not see it - because Obama is telling us, "Who are you going to believe, ME or your lying eyes?"

It comes down to one central point, that we all agree on, to some extent. The public is deserves the ultimate blame, (with the media a razor close second). America deserves what's coming.

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2014, 11:37:59 AM »
So do you believe Republicans are less corrupt, but only slightly? It seems more likely to me than the entire thing is bought and paid for and little more than a show to keep the masses placated.

The agenda only advances as quickly as 'the masses' will accept...

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Re: GOP goes quiet on ObamaCare
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2014, 11:45:01 AM »
The agenda only advances as quickly as 'the masses' will accept...

It seems to me that instead of continuing to play their game and elect the lesser of two evils we should be trying to change the game so we are actually players.
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