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Offline Chieftain

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« on: May 10, 2014, 09:18:58 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2014, 09:30:22 PM »
Obamacare is such a cataclysmic cluster cluck, even worse than I ever imagined it would be.  God help us! 

 
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2014, 09:43:47 PM »
Obamacare is such a cataclysmic cluster cluck, even worse than I ever imagined it would be.  God help us! 

 
FWIW I know three women that signed up here in California, got insurance, and have obtained medical care with their physicians. (Two private insurance policies, one Medical)

That statement does NOT means I support the program. It merely means I gathered empirical evidence and at least here, it is not completely awful. It may get worse for subscribers later, when they get dinged for additional premiums, if their income estimates were low, thereby meaning less subsidy, etc.

Of course the total costs to government may be staggering. I suspect Obama will be gone by then. California seems to be capable of getting computer systems built, etc. unlike some states and the FedGov.

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2014, 10:36:59 PM »
FWIW I know three women that signed up here in California, got insurance, and have obtained medical care with their physicians. (Two private insurance policies, one Medical)

That statement does NOT means I support the program. It merely means I gathered empirical evidence and at least here, it is not completely awful. It may get worse for subscribers later, when they get dinged for additional premiums, if their income estimates were low, thereby meaning less subsidy, etc.

Of course the total costs to government may be staggering. I suspect Obama will be gone by then. California seems to be capable of getting computer systems built, etc. unlike some states and the FedGov.



FWIW, my wife and I technically got a "cheaper" monthly premium (in NY) but it has a monstrous deductible, so much so that I have had to stop seeing a doctor whom I am supposed to regularly see to monitor some medication because I can't afford the entire out-of-pocket, and since I can't get the medication unless I see him (the prescription is not refillable), I've had to start playing games with that medication to stretch a one-month prescription over two months.  At least I can get a one-month prescription for that medication covered when I get it filled; my wife has three prescriptions that she must pay for in full unless she gets a three-month prescription (90 days) that she fills by mail - the insurer won't cover at all if the prescriptions are filled at a pharmacy or if they're for less than 90 days.

Woo-hoo; thank God for Obamacare, 'cause now we get to pay for what we can no longer afford to use.

As with any scheme of thievery, I mean redistribution, it's always easy to cherry-pick a few winners; the problem is, the losers outnumber the winners by orders of magnitude.

Obamacare is a fuster cluck of the first order.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2014, 07:29:08 AM »
FWIW, my wife and I technically got a "cheaper" monthly premium (in NY) but it has a monstrous deductible, so much so that I have had to stop seeing a doctor whom I am supposed to regularly see to monitor some medication because I can't afford the entire out-of-pocket, and since I can't get the medication unless I see him (the prescription is not refillable), I've had to start playing games with that medication to stretch a one-month prescription over two months.  At least I can get a one-month prescription for that medication covered when I get it filled; my wife has three prescriptions that she must pay for in full unless she gets a three-month prescription (90 days) that she fills by mail - the insurer won't cover at all if the prescriptions are filled at a pharmacy or if they're for less than 90 days.

Woo-hoo; thank God for Obamacare, 'cause now we get to pay for what we can no longer afford to use.

As with any scheme of thievery, I mean redistribution, it's always easy to cherry-pick a few winners; the problem is, the losers outnumber the winners by orders of magnitude.

Obamacare is a fuster cluck of the first order.
New York is going to be the poster child for the Obamacare success story. The problem is, 1) they already had their own exchange beforehand (it wasn't yet mandatory) and 2) the onerous demands of New York health insurance were even worse before Obamacare, so when that was implemented it actually ALLEVIATED some of the demands.


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