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Offline Machiavelli

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"Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
« on: May 06, 2014, 04:28:54 PM »
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The 2014 Cross Examination Debate Association's national championship was held at Indiana University. The all African American female team from Towson University defeated the all African American male team from the University of Oklahoma.

Though this may be a first for African American women, it is not a real win for women or African Americans, but a loss for collegiate debate specifically and America in general. I am not sure what the winners won, but it certainly wasn't a debate.

However, to be fair to the participants, the quality of collegiate debate began to deteriorate long before 2014. All white teams won prior championships using a similar fast-talking style. However from what I can tell, in the past the fast talk, what little could actually be understood, was at least related to the topic supposedly being debated. This farce would be funny if it wasn't so sad. However it does provide a shocking example as to why America is a nation in decline.

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Note that when the debaters are interviewed they are coherent and articulate. I wonder if this was some kind of experiment by them to see if they could win a debate by being nonsensical.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=&amp;v=fmO-ziHU_D8" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=&amp;v=fmO-ziHU_D8</a>


From the Left: Hacking Traditional College Debate's White-Privilege Problem

From the Right: College Wins US Debate Championship By Repeating the N-Word Over and Over, Speaking Incomprehensibly

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Re: "Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2014, 04:54:48 PM »
uh..uh....N*word....uh...uh... (pound podium)  uh...uh....

Wow, impressive.   10294

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Re: "Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2014, 05:45:43 PM »
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Yo da 2014 Cross Examination Debate Association's national championship wuz held at Indiana University. da all brudda beotch team from Towson University defeated da all brudda ni&&a team from da University o' Oklahoma.

Though dis here may be uh first fo' brudda beotches, it iz not uh real win fo' beotches or African Americans, but uh loss fo' collegiate debate specifically an' America in general. ah be not sho what da winners won, but it certainly wasn't uh debate.

However, ta be fair ta da participants, da quality o' collegiate debate began ta deteriorate long 'bfoe 2014. All whitey teams won prior championships usin` uh similar fast-jivin' style. However from what ah can tell, in da past da fast jive, what little could actually be understood, wuz at least related ta da topic supposedly being debated. dis here farce would be funny if it wasn't so sad. However it do provide uh shocking example as ta why America be uh nation in decline and shit.

Just in case any team member was a member here.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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Re: "Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2014, 04:28:33 PM »
The video was taken down for a couple weeks. Here is the explanation by the guy who uploaded it:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R2uTwCiNv4" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R2uTwCiNv4</a>



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Re: "Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 04:31:32 PM »
You might think this is just a black thing. It's not. Two examples from the 2013 CEDA debates:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyZZ97P7FQ" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyZZ97P7FQ</a>


This one contains adult language:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpXQIf9exA" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpXQIf9exA</a>
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 04:34:00 PM by Machiavelli »

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Re: "Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 04:38:49 PM »
Here is a parody of the 2013 debates. This is definitely NSFW!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrK1a-MT-VI" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrK1a-MT-VI</a>


He also did a parody on Trayvon Martin a couple years ago. It's dated, but funny:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ1Mn2f5c7g" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ1Mn2f5c7g</a>


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