How'd a MANPAD take down a 24? Either one hell of a lucky shot or one hell of a crappy pilot. I have flown 24's a long time - and you guys can keep your Apaches, the Hind is the worlds best mayhem platform, bar none. Fast as hell, very unstable (makes them way more maneuverable). One of the very few choppers you can both loop in and barrel roll. Not hugely forgiving, mind, you have to pay attention constantly. Got incoming? Flare up and take it on the belly, which is armored heavily enough that a tank would get jealous. She won't even blink.