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Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« on: April 26, 2014, 10:54:29 AM »

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2014, 12:23:44 PM »
There's a lot of truth there, but I'm not ready to think Hillary's heading out to pasture just yet.  But yes, the left is absolutely taken with Pocahontas.  And she's not been riddled with the oversight that Hillary has.  Still, last poll I saw had Hillary ahead by around 60+ points.  But as I mentioned on another thread, this time heading into the 2008 election I don't think Obama was even on the long list of possibilities.  And Hillary had already been crowned!
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2014, 12:35:16 PM »
There's a lot of truth there, but I'm not ready to think Hillary's heading out to pasture just yet.  But yes, the left is absolutely taken with Pocahontas.  And she's not been riddled with the oversight that Hillary has.  Still, last poll I saw had Hillary ahead by around 60+ points.  But as I mentioned on another thread, this time heading into the 2008 election I don't think Obama was even on the long list of possibilities.  And Hillary had already been crowned!


Exactly.. The far left does not like the Clinton's..  2016 in grand scheme of things is a long way..
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2014, 12:49:04 PM »
I never donate money to political candidates. I need the money for other things like putting kids through college and shoes, etc.

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I may make an exception, and donate to the Elizabeth Warren for President campaign.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 12:50:21 PM »

Exactly.. The far left does not like the Clinton's..  2016 in grand scheme of things is a long way..

Warren doesn't need to win.

She just needs to piss her supporters off at Hillary enough so they don't show up to vote come Election Day.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 12:51:19 PM »
Warren doesn't need to win.

She just needs to piss her supporters off at Hillary enough so they don't show up to vote come Election Day.

sounds like a plan!

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 12:55:19 PM »
sounds like a plan!

One can make the argument that Ralph Nader's presence in the Florida ticket helped Bush win the 2000 election.

If the extreme left supports Warren, and Warren loses the primaries to Hillary, you could safely assume that a portion of Warren supporters would back any leftist on the ballot that's not Hillary.

In a close race that could make the difference.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 01:13:34 PM »
One can make the argument that Ralph Nader's presence in the Florida ticket helped Bush win the 2000 election.

If the extreme left supports Warren, and Warren loses the primaries to Hillary, you could safely assume that a portion of Warren supporters would back any leftist on the ballot that's not Hillary.

In a close race that could make the difference.

time to get a hard-left third candidate going then.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 01:34:39 PM »
time to get a hard-left third candidate going then.
With Obama as the nominee, they don't need a "hard left" third party.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 01:35:43 PM »
With Obama as the nominee, they don't need a "hard left" third party.

I'm hoping that he doesn't run in 2016.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 01:40:43 PM »
I'm hoping that he doesn't run in 2016.

Can anyone clarify something for me?

Is there any law that would prevent Obama for running for another position? Or running as VP?
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 01:50:05 PM »
Can anyone clarify something for me?

Is there any law that would prevent Obama for running for another position? Or running as VP?

The XII Amendment does:

"... no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

The XXII Amendment makes Obama "constitutionally ineligible" by way of his two terms served as POTUS.

He can run for any other position that does not lists him in the line of succession to the Presidency.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2014, 01:56:23 PM »
Thank you, Luis.

He can't pull a Putin then, at least. Though Illinois might have a new Governor or Senator in '16.
 
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2014, 02:11:12 PM »
Thank you, Luis.

He can't pull a Putin then, at least. Though Illinois might have a new Governor or Senator in '16.

I've heard rumors that he's going to open an LBGT friendly Halal wedding catering service. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2014, 02:26:58 PM »
I've heard rumors that he's going to open an LBGT friendly Halal wedding catering service. 

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2014, 02:28:58 PM »
I'm hoping that he doesn't run in 2016.
Poorly phrased by me. I SHOULD have said that with Obama as the nominee, the left didn't need a 3rd party in 2008 and 2012.

And that helped him win. I expect the same political savvy would carry over for Clinton or Warren.

Not so much for the clumsy center-right side. There are no end of those who would use the election process to set up their future careers in talk-radio, books and lectures etc. And of those who would support them.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2014, 03:39:10 PM »
Poorly phrased by me. I SHOULD have said that with Obama as the nominee, the left didn't need a 3rd party in 2008 and 2012.

And that helped him win. I expect the same political savvy would carry over for Clinton or Warren.

Not so much for the clumsy center-right side. There are no end of those who would use the election process to set up their future careers in talk-radio, books and lectures etc. And of those who would support them.

Obama carried the center, and all the "Negro" vote (is that word fashionable again?).

I think the center, or a sizable portion of it anyway, is growing tired of the sort of politics that Obama exemplifies.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2014, 07:40:01 PM »
Obama carried the center, and all the "Negro" vote (is that word fashionable again?).

I think the center, or a sizable portion of it anyway, is growing tired of the sort of politics that Obama exemplifies.

I agree with you, which means all the more we must nominate people who aren't obsessive over one issue, which tends to turn away the center.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2014, 07:46:30 PM »
One of theses is ,so called, "White", and one of them is a so called, minority. Guess which one is which.
 
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Re: Elizabeth Warren would crush Hillary, and they both know it
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2014, 07:51:42 PM »
One of theses is ,so called, "White", and one of them is a so called, minority. Guess which one is which.
 


Good comparison.  But quit picking on Pocahontas.  She's the dream candidate for the far left, and besides her momma told her she was an Indian.  :laugh:
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