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GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« on: April 24, 2014, 10:38:01 AM »

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2014, 11:11:13 AM »
This guy Bundy is a real winner, ain't he?  Completely discredits himself with his mouth.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2014, 11:21:39 AM »
Yet remarkably silent on the puppeteering of Al Sharpton of one Tawana Brawley.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2014, 11:36:50 AM »
There's a lot more to his statement than meets the eye. With half a brain, anyone could read between the lines and get the full meaning. There was a time, including during slavery, that blacks were proud. Even under slavery, the maintained their dignity considering the circumstances. They had a good work ethic, even after slavery.

Today's blacks lament the days when many of the women were 'reduced' to domestic help. It's true many were taken for granted, but it's also true that black women weren't hired merely because they were cheaper, but they were more likely to be more honest and harder workers than their white counterparts.

As so many were treated badly, they maintained their dignity, and lived good, respectable lives. Then, to get the black vote, the Great Society was created. And, as each law was passed, blacks worked less and less, while the democrats helped to erase their dignity. Many overcame it, but there is that element that thrives on being takers. It's not only blacks, but more blacks suffer because of liberal policies.  And now, all of America suffers the pains of liberalism.

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2014, 11:39:07 AM »
Yet remarkably silent on the puppeteering of Al Sharpton of one Tawana Brawley.

The GOP is like a mongoose when it is attacking people they believe are conservatives - but they become as passive as a lamb when it comes to attacking progressives. 

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2014, 11:40:28 AM »
Have these comments been confirmed? So far I've just seen an anonymous NYT report of overhearing this. Same source Harry Reid used for Romney's tax returns?

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2014, 11:41:43 AM »
Aw Geez.........here we go again. :thud:
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2014, 11:47:13 AM »
Folks, consider -- we're getting into "Dan Rather" territory here.

No New York Times reporter actually heard these "remarks".

They got these "quotes" from a female reporter in Las Vegas whose political leanings are obvious.

This has the hallmarks of a constructed smear...

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2014, 11:55:54 AM »
Folks, consider -- we're getting into "Dan Rather" territory here.

No New York Times reporter actually heard these "remarks".

They got these "quotes" from a female reporter in Las Vegas whose political leanings are obvious.

This has the hallmarks of a constructed smear...

Has Bundy denied them?

He's certainly a sideshow.  Rick Perry had that response this morning on CBS to a host who was obviously trying to get Perry to comment on Bundy:

"Cliven Bundy is a side issue.  The real issue is the federal government coming into to take over land."

That's what conservatives should say.  Stay away from defending this old man.
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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2014, 12:04:36 PM »
Have these comments been confirmed? So far I've just seen an anonymous NYT report of overhearing this. Same source Harry Reid used for Romney's tax returns?

I don't know.  I take NYT the same as Infowars - not seriously.  They have a definite agenda!  That said, I think this Bundy guy is an older man that uses the term "negro" as a more respectful term than the other n-word.  In his generation, that was the term used.  I don't agree with the way he said it, but I understand his thinking about it.  Blacks are on the Democrat plantation, and any black that dares to try to stray from it gets the Uncle Tom treatment.  The Democrat party uses blacks for their votes at election time, and the rest of the time they treat them abominably - destroying their families and lives in a most obvious way.  Bundy was trying to say that - but the NYT and other media are jumping on him as this wacko bigoted "Tea Party" domestic terrorist.  Bundy is just a regular old guy and isn't sophisticated in the ways and trickery of the media.  The GOP are complete cowards and bow down to the media in absolute terror that they will say something bad about them - to the point where they have absolutely no principles left that they will fight for. 

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2014, 12:16:52 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2014, 12:34:12 PM »
This guy Bundy is a real winner, ain't he?  Completely discredits himself with his mouth.

Same as Jeb Bush and George W. Bush.

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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2014, 12:35:51 PM »
I read that Glenn Beck urged his listeners to run away. Glenn's just mad, because he's not behind this. He only cares when he's running movements.

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2014, 12:54:30 PM »
There's a lot more to his statement than meets the eye. With half a brain, anyone could read between the lines and get the full meaning. There was a time, including during slavery, that blacks were proud. Even under slavery, the maintained their dignity considering the circumstances. They had a good work ethic, even after slavery.

Today's blacks lament the days when many of the women were 'reduced' to domestic help. It's true many were taken for granted, but it's also true that black women weren't hired merely because they were cheaper, but they were more likely to be more honest and harder workers than their white counterparts.

As so many were treated badly, they maintained their dignity, and lived good, respectable lives. Then, to get the black vote, the Great Society was created. And, as each law was passed, blacks worked less and less, while the democrats helped to erase their dignity. Many overcame it, but there is that element that thrives on being takers. It's not only blacks, but more blacks suffer because of liberal policies.  And now, all of America suffers the pains of liberalism.

Exactly Hap.  If one wants to read his statements and get the "worst" out of them, they surely can.  But if you want to understand the truth of his message, it can certainly be found.  Sure, he isn't the most articulate guy around, but I don't see racism in his words.

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2014, 12:56:36 PM »
Post on the official FB for the ranch (son runs it) w/ in the past hour:

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There are new rumors going around about Cliven. We all know that with the media, words are taken out of context, meanings are twisted, and they can take anything and turn it into what they want it to be. Cliven is a good man, he loves all people, he is not a racist man. He wants what is best for everyone.


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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2014, 12:59:41 PM »
Media matters released the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbnRnhrNFEY#t=64

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2014, 01:06:05 PM »
There's a lot more to his statement than meets the eye. With half a brain, anyone could read between the lines and get the full meaning. There was a time, including during slavery, that blacks were proud. Even under slavery, the maintained their dignity considering the circumstances. They had a good work ethic, even after slavery.

Today's blacks lament the days when many of the women were 'reduced' to domestic help. It's true many were taken for granted, but it's also true that black women weren't hired merely because they were cheaper, but they were more likely to be more honest and harder workers than their white counterparts.

As so many were treated badly, they maintained their dignity, and lived good, respectable lives. Then, to get the black vote, the Great Society was created. And, as each law was passed, blacks worked less and less, while the democrats helped to erase their dignity. Many overcame it, but there is that element that thrives on being takers. It's not only blacks, but more blacks suffer because of liberal policies.  And now, all of America suffers the pains of liberalism.
What you said..I refuse to let liberals play the race card...want to talk about racism ? lets talk about the patronizing attitude liberals have toward blacks or  their using cries of racism to silence critics of their policies
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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2014, 01:08:11 PM »
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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 01:20:52 PM »
Same as Jeb Bush and George W. Bush.

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2014, 01:40:55 PM »
Same as Jeb Bush and George W. Bush.

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Re: GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 01:43:07 PM »
Same as Jeb Bush and George W. Bush.
 

Jeb and George W. don't describe blacks as Step-n-Fetchits.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.


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