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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2014, 02:56:59 am »
This is scary Luis. I came "this" close to referencing Superman.

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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2014, 12:26:07 pm »
Things sure have changed, haven't they MAC?  Some of the changes certainly were by necessity, but so many... have been self-inflicted while we suffer a thousand cuts.  Meanwhile, we as a society sit idly allowing it to happen.  Oblivious, actually.

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You're right Lando.  We do just sit by idly while these things happen.  I sense that deep down we all just trust that our government won't go too far.  And as the thousand cuts continue, we just get used to it, accept our new situation, and our trust level extends out farther.  And for the most part we're going to accept the "new world order" something we would never have imagined or embraced only a generation ago.

I think of Scotland where I visited a few years back.  A beautiful country with fantastic history. The people of the north fought off the Irish, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings and Normans.  Today they just sit back and meekly accept the most ungodly regulatory scheme I've personally seen.  Now when they have a vote very soon, I wouldn't be surprised if they rejected independence.  To a person they are completely dependent on governments, which oblige by regulating every moment of their lives.

And yes, I fear we are heading down that same path.
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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2014, 01:25:54 pm »
You're right Lando.  We do just sit by idly while these things happen.  I sense that deep down we all just trust that our government won't go too far.  And as the thousand cuts continue, we just get used to it, accept our new situation, and our trust level extends out farther.  And for the most part we're going to accept the "new world order" something we would never have imagined or embraced only a generation ago.

I think of Scotland where I visited a few years back.  A beautiful country with fantastic history. The people of the north fought off the Irish, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings and Normans.  Today they just sit back and meekly accept the most ungodly regulatory scheme I've personally seen.  Now when they have a vote very soon, I wouldn't be surprised if they rejected independence.  To a person they are completely dependent on governments, which oblige by regulating every moment of their lives.

And yes, I fear we are heading down that same path.

I don't think it's trust - on either the right or the left. We are just so damned busy working and trying to raise our families that a lot of the stuff seems to slide "under the radar." Throw in the media picking what you hear: "Hey, ignore the fact that the Ukraine is a powder keg and there are now 2 million displaced in Syria and nearly a million killed, some rancher grazed his cattle on Federal land!!!" and it gets scary.

Not everyone has the time to hunt for news, even with the rise of the New Media. It's way easier to get home from work, kick off your shoes and click on the TV.
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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2014, 02:45:33 pm »
I don't think it's trust - on either the right or the left. We are just so damned busy working and trying to raise our families that a lot of the stuff seems to slide "under the radar." Throw in the media picking what you hear: "Hey, ignore the fact that the Ukraine is a powder keg and there are now 2 million displaced in Syria and nearly a million killed, some rancher grazed his cattle on Federal land!!!" and it gets scary.

Not everyone has the time to hunt for news, even with the rise of the New Media. It's way easier to get home from work, kick off your shoes and click on the TV.

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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2014, 03:09:51 pm »
I don't think it's trust - on either the right or the left. We are just so damned busy working and trying to raise our families that a lot of the stuff seems to slide "under the radar." Throw in the media picking what you hear: "Hey, ignore the fact that the Ukraine is a powder keg and there are now 2 million displaced in Syria and nearly a million killed, some rancher grazed his cattle on Federal land!!!" and it gets scary.

Not everyone has the time to hunt for news, even with the rise of the New Media. It's way easier to get home from work, kick off your shoes and click on the TV.

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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2014, 04:35:04 pm »
You're right Lando.  We do just sit by idly while these things happen.  I sense that deep down we all just trust that our government won't go too far.  And as the thousand cuts continue, we just get used to it, accept our new situation, and our trust level extends out farther.  And for the most part we're going to accept the "new world order" something we would never have imagined or embraced only a generation ago.

I think of Scotland where I visited a few years back.  A beautiful country with fantastic history. The people of the north fought off the Irish, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings and Normans.  Today they just sit back and meekly accept the most ungodly regulatory scheme I've personally seen.  Now when they have a vote very soon, I wouldn't be surprised if they rejected independence.  To a person they are completely dependent on governments, which oblige by regulating every moment of their lives.

And yes, I fear we are heading down that same path.


very well put, unfortunately (i'm not begrudging you your eloquence, just bemoaning the state of affairs you so accurately portrayed).

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Re: Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio lack experience for 2016
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2014, 02:54:15 am »
speekinout writes above:
[[ The US has the best opportunity to be the world leader. We have the money, the military, and above all a free population that understands what freedom and opportunity mean... ]]

We -had- those things, once.

All of them are rapidly slipping away, particularly the last one.

More speekinout:
[[ We need a proven leader right now. One of these young and untested people might be a really good leader some day, but we really can't take a chance on an unproven candidate right now... ]]

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"The End of History"

Fishrrman, 2014:
"The End of Leadership" ...