Author Topic: Should 1 person have the power to overturn the will of 3 million voters?  (Read 270 times)

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Sometimes the answer is yes.  Suppose 62% of Ohioans voted to outlaw the republican party; should the 1 person with the power to undo that act, or not?

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Sometimes the answer is yes.  Suppose 62% of Ohioans voted to outlaw the republican party; should the 1 person with the power to undo that act, or not?

I seriously doubt the courts would find anything wrong with outlawing the republican party if it were the will of the people;  but not so likely if it were to vote the democratic party out of the state.
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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The confederate states, and the Southern Baptist church for a time, favored slavery, then segregation and discrimination.

Courts opposed such "majority opinions" etc. Justifiably, in my view of the nation's history, intent of the founders, etc.

Like it or not, homosexuality is being defined as equal to a racial minority, a religious minority, a physical disability, etc. and given similar protection.
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"Four gay couples in Ohio went to other states to be legally married and are now expecting children."

That one really had me for a second.
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That's a way oversimplification of the way our country works. Judges are not gods; they are either appointed by elected officials or elected themselves. So the voters have control over who gets to be a judge. And in case a rogue judge does get office, there are ways to impeach or otherwise remove a judge from office. And then there are appeals courts - several levels of them, all the way the the US Supreme Court.
This Judge Black recognizes the appeal process, and he stayed his ruling to let that process work through. I don't agree with his opinion in this case, but I do agree that the appeals process is the way to resolve the case. I would have wanted that option even if he decided the other way.
We are fortunate that our founding fathers put so many checks and balances in our system. We've been saved many times because of that.

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That's a way oversimplification of the way our country works. Judges are not gods; they are either appointed by elected officials or elected themselves. So the voters have control over who gets to be a judge. And in case a rogue judge does get office, there are ways to impeach or otherwise remove a judge from office. And then there are appeals courts - several levels of them, all the way the the US Supreme Court.
This Judge Black recognizes the appeal process, and he stayed his ruling to let that process work through. I don't agree with his opinion in this case, but I do agree that the appeals process is the way to resolve the case. I would have wanted that option even if he decided the other way.
We are fortunate that our founding fathers put so many checks and balances in our system. We've been saved many times because of that.

very well put!


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