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Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 04:40:07 PM »
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2014, 02:59:52 PM »
There's a theory that the Huns were the descendants of the Hsiung-nu, who raided China during the, I believe, Tang dynasty, before the Chinese crushed them, and drove them west. They were a Mongolian people.
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 03:03:24 PM »
Hun
Hungary

now I'm a linguistic expert

BTW the Hungarian language is closest to Estonian and Finnish, which along with Basque are NOT part of the remainder of Europe's language groups.

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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2014, 08:58:41 AM »
Hun
Hungary

now I'm a linguistic expert

BTW the Hungarian language is closest to Estonian and Finnish, which along with Basque are NOT part of the remainder of Europe's language groups.



Yeah, but the language isn't from the Huns. It's from the Magyars, who rode in around the 9th and 10th centuries.
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 09:01:29 AM »
Hun
Hungary

now I'm a linguistic expert

BTW the Hungarian language is closest to Estonian and Finnish, which along with Basque are NOT part of the remainder of Europe's language groups.

Those three languages are actually not associated with any others around the globe.
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2014, 04:22:53 PM »
Are you all sure he didn't come from Kenya? :silly:
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2014, 04:54:45 PM »
Those three languages are actually not associated with any others around the globe.
I call it two languages groups; Uralic (encompassing Finnish, Estonian, Hungarian etc.) and Basque.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language

and about Language Isolates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_isolate

It all makes for fascinating leaning. I have no known involvement with either of these two, aside from the speculative possibility my Swedish/Norwegian* ancestors could have adopted a Lapp, or my Catalonian (French, Spanish) ancestors could have adopted a Basque.

*My father referred to himself as a Black Swede (similar to Black Irish).  He joked he could have been the product of wide ranging Viking voyages, to Spain or the Mediterranean. It wasn't until after his death, I realized he may have been correct, and not just his normal joking around Scandinavian dry humor.

It is interesting how in Sweden they recognize their Finnish speakers and Sami/Lapp speakers.



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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2014, 05:44:39 PM »
I call it two languages groups; Uralic (encompassing Finnish, Estonian, Hungarian etc.) and Basque.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language

and about Language Isolates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_isolate

It all makes for fascinating leaning. I have no known involvement with either of these two, aside from the speculative possibility my Swedish/Norwegian* ancestors could have adopted a Lapp, or my Catalonian (French, Spanish) ancestors could have adopted a Basque.

*My father referred to himself as a Black Swede (similar to Black Irish).  He joked he could have been the product of wide ranging Viking voyages, to Spain or the Mediterranean. It wasn't until after his death, I realized he may have been correct, and not just his normal joking around Scandinavian dry humor.

It is interesting how in Sweden they recognize their Finnish speakers and Sami/Lapp speakers.

Thanks for the info, ts....

Your mentioning a "Black Swede" makes me wonder about my own brown eyes with my 100% Swedish ancestry.   The family rumor was that some impure French blood got in the mix, but maybe it was a Spaniard.   ^-^

My family came from the area of Sweden where the Vikings invaded to the East (Russian, Ukraine), so it's curious that my blood, in some long ago past, got tainted by the darker people from the south. ;*)
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2014, 06:27:23 PM »
Thanks for the info, ts....

Your mentioning a "Black Swede" makes me wonder about my own brown eyes with my 100% Swedish ancestry.   The family rumor was that some impure French blood got in the mix, but maybe it was a Spaniard.   ^-^

My family came from the area of Sweden where the Vikings invaded to the East (Russian, Ukraine), so it's curious that my blood, in some long ago past, got tainted by the darker people from the south. ;*)
My Dad was 1/2 Swedish, on his father's side. I have pictures of his father and his wife, eg. grandparents. From different regions of Sweden (towns of Karlstad, and near Vajxo, Kronoberg , but both dark haired. Came to Minnesota in 1871 and 1863 respectively.

My Dad had nearly black hair, and blue eyes, and a light slightly freckled complexion, probably from his North British mother.

If you don't already know about it, Vilhelm Moberg wrote fascinating books about Swedish immigration to America.

If you like music, check out "Kristina from Duvelama" a musical play based on Moberg's books, by the two guys from ABBA, you know they wrote "Mama Mia." (Bjorn and Bennie)

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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2014, 06:55:15 PM »
My Dad was 1/2 Swedish, on his father's side. I have pictures of his father and his wife, eg. grandparents. From different regions of Sweden (towns of Karlstad, and near Vajxo, Kronoberg , but both dark haired. Came to Minnesota in 1871 and 1863 respectively.

My Dad had nearly black hair, and blue eyes, and a light slightly freckled complexion, probably from his North British mother.

If you don't already know about it, Vilhelm Moberg wrote fascinating books about Swedish immigration to America.

If you like music, check out "Kristina from Duvelama" a musical play based on Moberg's books, by the two guys from ABBA, you know they wrote "Mama Mia." (Bjorn and Bennie)

I read both The Emigrants and Unto a Good Land, and loved them both!  I didn't realize that there was a musical based on Moberg's books.  I'll have to check that out!

I lived in the TC's for 6 years, and went to Stillwater and the area where the stories took place (Well,  the Minnesota part!).

As for the hair coloring, I only have photos of my grandparents when they were young (3 of 4 died before I was born), and their hair looks very dark (ALL were born in Sweden), but my Dad was a redhead and my Mom a blonde, so I don't know if it was just the lighting, or if they were ash blondes.

The one time I was in Sweden, I noticed that most of the adults weren't blondes, but when I went to a Swedish ancestry college in MN, most of the pure Swedish students were blonder than I.

Incidentally, 3 of 4 of my grandparents were from the Karlstad area........one really close, one from Nora, and the other came from what my Mom referred to as "Norland" (which I guess was anything north of Karlstad!).  My b-in-l does the ancestry thing, and found out she was really from Vitsand, which isn't all that far north.

I always pictured her as being from Lappland, but it was really in or near Dalarna.
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2014, 07:18:02 PM »
I read both The Emigrants and Unto a Good Land, and loved them both!  I didn't realize that there was a musical based on Moberg's books.  I'll have to check that out!

Did you know Moberg did research for his books, while living in the Chisago Lakes region of Minnesotta?

He later lived in Monterey California, Laguna Beach California, and eventually went back to Sweden where he committed suicide.

Bjorn and Bennie wrote "Mama Mia," and later "Kristina from Duvemala," the latter about the main characters (Karl, Kristina) in the Emgrants tetralogy.

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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2014, 07:24:58 PM »
Did you know Moberg did research for his books, while living in the Chisago Lakes region of Minnesotta?

He later lived in Monterey California, Laguna Beach California, and eventually went back to Sweden where he committed suicide.

Bjorn and Bennie wrote "Mama Mia," and later "Kristina from Duvemala," the latter about the main characters (Karl, Kristina) in the Emgrants tetralogy.

Is the musical in Swedish?  I just did a quick check on Amazon and only saw a CD that was in Swedish.

(My understanding of the language is limited to a few prayers, sayings and songs from my childhood!)

Oh...........and I saw that Moberg committed suicide after suffering from depression.  Very sad.
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Re: Hungary: archaeologists discover tomb of Attila the Hun
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2014, 07:31:48 PM »
Is the musical in Swedish?  I just did a quick check on Amazon and only saw a CD that was in Swedish.

(My understanding of the language is limited to a few prayers, sayings and songs from my childhood!)

Oh...........and I saw that Moberg committed suicide after suffering from depression.  Very sad.
"Kristina" has been performed in the US, in English......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristina_fr%C3%A5n_Duvem%C3%A5la
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