Author Topic: Republicans Warn Of New Obamacare Reality: No Repeal Without Alternative  (Read 426 times)

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Repeal it!!!  end of story!!!


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Repeal it!!!  end of story!!!

No, that's not the "end of story."    Republicans have to face the fact that they are NEVER going to roll-back coverage for pre-existing conditions, parents covering their kids up until age 26, and portability of insurance plans between jobs.

But what Republicans CAN do is eliminate mandates, allow for coverage across state lines, and offer tax credits instead of subsidies.

We do have to have alternatives.  Can't beat something with nothing.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Many of those things can be accomplished through market mechanisms.  Not allowing some slack for pre-existing conditions is going to keep health insurance too expensive for most people; serious pre-existing conditions would be better dealt with under a welfare program like medicaid or medicare.  Portability would be a snap if policies were owned by the individual and not by an employer.  Tax credits are as wasteful and pointless as subsidies.

Tax credits are not "wasteful."  They're the only way to incent many in the middle class to purchase insurance.  I'm all for health insurance becoming disconnected from employment.  It's nuts for employers to have to furnish insurance for employees and it also contributes to the notion that someone with a hangnail can just go the doctor. 

HSAs are my favorite, where every family would have a high deductible catastrophic policy and would pay out of pocket for ordinary medical expenses up to a limit of, say,  $4,000. 
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Republicans have to come up with an alternative. Health care costs are rising astronomically and if we ignore the public's plight the public will demand a single payer system.

HSAs and tax credits and deductions are not nearly enough in my opinion.  The GOP must be come up with a plan to lower costs.  Some of the high costs are due to monopolies in health care.  Those monopolies must be regulated.

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I'm noticing Sen. Lee, Utah moving more and more into the mainstream discussion of policies, solutions, political realities.

Does that mean he's moving away from his Tea Party origins? Will he be dubbed a Rino soon?

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No, that's not the "end of story."    Republicans have to face the fact that they are NEVER going to roll-back coverage for pre-existing conditions, parents covering their kids up until age 26, and portability of insurance plans between jobs.

But what Republicans CAN do is eliminate mandates, allow for coverage across state lines, and offer tax credits instead of subsidies.

We do have to have alternatives.  Can't beat something with nothing.

On this we agree. While we disagree on how we got here, here is where we are. Americans want a nanny state. They want the government to provide. We are now at a place where the only real option, in terms of being elected, is to mitigate just how far the government can go with healthcare.

Healthcare is now viewed as a right by a majority of the American public.

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Republicans have to come up with an alternative. Health care costs are rising astronomically and if we ignore the public's plight the public will demand a single payer system.

HSAs and tax credits and deductions are not nearly enough in my opinion.  The GOP must be come up with a plan to lower costs.  Some of the high costs are due to monopolies in health care.  Those monopolies must be regulated.

The high costs for health care are for many different reasons. One big one is misuse of health care - using emergency rooms for routine care and having insurance cover minor matters (like the famous Fluke contraceptives) are two examples of that. Another big one is the cost of regulations - requiring doctors to keep all of those computer records with thousands of different codes is very expensive. More regulation is not the answer.
Making people more responsible for their own health care choices and leaving decisions to the patient and doctor would cut costs significantly.


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