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Offline mystery-ak

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« on: April 06, 2014, 09:54:07 PM »

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Offline xfreeper

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2014, 01:10:59 AM »
this should disqualify him from any prominent position at all in government......unless it's in mexico

Offline raml

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 01:23:29 AM »
I can't believe how stupid most politicians are. Illegals have cost us billions in taxpayer money not governments since a government only has the money taxpayers are able to pay and yet they want to open their arms to them while the citizens suffer and pay outrageous taxes. They all need to go to prison for the corruption our government now oversees and straddles poor taxpayers with.

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 02:16:00 AM »
Right, and it really burns me up when politicans like Jeb here are more worried about these illegal aliens than American citizens. Invading and occupying a foreign country is not an act of love - his Mexican wife ought to take him back to her home country as an act of love.

Offline rustynail

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2014, 05:29:32 AM »
Of money.

Offline mountaineer

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 07:19:09 AM »
They're breaking the law. We look at intent, not "motive," however noble and fuzzywuzzy.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 08:14:27 AM »
A real act of love, tough love, would be to send them back to Mejico to teach them respect for the law and rights of others. :amen:
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2014, 10:14:15 AM »
I respect all of the opinions expressed so far on this thread....but I couldn't disagree more.

Because of the country's size, we ourselves have 'cultural' differences among our fellow natural-born Americans. 

Somebody growing up or living in Southern California, Arizona or Texas.....or in a major 'Sanctuary' American city/county....is NOT going to have the same experiences and/or exposure to the illegal immigrant.  So it would be difficult for everybody to have the same take.

When you look at your family's plight and your 'lucky' neighbor or cousin sends pictures of them enjoying their 40 wide screen and living in comparative heaven....you go to the United States as an act of love for your family.

Is it syrupy?  Yes.   

He's a politician.

But I agree with him totally....so that makes me a "Bush Republican".
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2014, 10:18:55 AM »
greed and envy has nothing to do with love

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 10:23:45 AM »
greed and envy has nothing to do with love

One thing I've learned over the years is to not get "into it" with fellow members on this specific topic.

Just wanted to put on record for the terrific members here that may not know my position on illegal immigration.  While my POV has hardened over the past few years, it may be because I am semi-retired and don't enjoy the same daily interaction with 'them'.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 10:30:03 AM »
greed and envy has nothing to do with love


Felt compelled to respond here but this is it and I'm done......

When your own children and wife looks at you with sadness while the rest of the family seem to be getting better education/healthcare, cars, houses, HDTV, what will you say?

"Uh....sorry kids....your relatives are scumbags for breaking the law.  We'll get in line and wait our turn"?

Meanwhile your nephews and nieces are all going to college, while YOUR kids are cleaning the backyard outhouse.

Greed and envy has nothing to do with wanting for your family what everybody else gets by sneaking to the USA.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2014, 10:30:36 AM by DCPatriot »
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 10:33:33 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2014, 10:45:33 AM »
The only "act of love" involved here is the full-fledged ****ing being forced upon Americans by politicians and the big business and big labor interests that fill their pockets and keep them in office.

What other country on Earth would consider an invasion by foreigner nationals to be an "act of love"? What kind of politician would say something so ineffably stupid?

It takes a Bush.
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2014, 10:54:53 AM »
We already have a President who doesn't give a flip about our laws, we don't need another one.   :nono:

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 03:46:36 PM »
We already have a President who doesn't give a flip about our laws, we don't need another one.   :nono:

That's what makes this so strange.   The name Bush is toxic.   And yet Jeb Bush thinks he can overcome that?

It's a perfect example of the effect one's circle-of-influence has on their POV on immigration. 

He'd make a great president.....but no thanks.   And I sure as hell don't want Romney either.

Side note:  The Republican party should change their name....or there should be a new party called the Constitutional Party.

I'm convinced there are millions of currently registered Democrats that are disgusted by Fascism and ready to jump.  But the name Republican is synonymous with out-of-touch, non-empathetic Americans.  The 'enemy'.

With a new name it's like:















« Last Edit: April 07, 2014, 03:47:28 PM by DCPatriot »
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2014, 04:13:11 PM »
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Greed and envy has nothing to do with wanting for your family what everybody else gets
Isn't that the definition of envy?

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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2014, 08:21:40 PM »
Isn't that the definition of envy?

Just the fact your children will not grow up illiterate, and your grandchildren could be self-made millionaires turns sneaking....into a noble journey.

Like I said, here we are, just a 30 minute subway ride to the White House, and you see complete families from perhaps San Salvador with the mother loaded down with groceries and her children all holding hands while crossing the street.  The father trailing with a watchful eye.  They are not dressed for the weather...it can break your heart.

The very first thing that comes to mind is....that's EXACTLY what my grandmother looked liked when she landed at Ellis Island.

I'll always love them without apology. 

All you have to do is imagine what it's like to be those children...beam me up Scotty...they could have been my parents.

It's agreed that it's been a terrible strain on the monthly [county] budgets, but let's not kid ourselves, it's FEDERAL $$$ paying for it out of the stimulus money.   Remember what Pelosi said.....every entitlement dollar generates ......whatever bullshit it was.

Her point of course was that those groceries they're carrying keeps other businesses thriving.   We get it. 

The other point that must be admitted here is that Montgomery County, Maryland has done it "right".  They've ensured that government entitlements won't mirror other "cradle to grave" examples out there......and find by the time they've graduated high school, they're as much an American as you or I.

THAT's the fact here.  And they are nice people.   And they shouldn't be alienated.

Sorry for breaking my promise.   8888crybaby
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2014, 09:38:32 PM »
A 30 minute ride from the mexico california border will give you a completely different perspective. As will a cuise up the central valley or salinas valley in CA. Your inability or refusal to recognized any difference between legal and illegal immigration is also puzzling. Does your heart cry for the victims of mexican gang bangers as well?

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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2014, 09:13:32 AM »


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