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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Where the hell do I begin?

Lets start with a thank you. The US provides a bleep ton of aid, and every last gram is appreciated. I've seen the stuff coming in. About 2/3 of it is in cases or sacks stamped USA. It comes from churches, private individuals, companies and aid agencies. Not just food. Diapers, medicines, cots, toys, clothes. All of them come in and the recipients are bleep grateful. I am not talking the odd box - I am talking 7 cargo planes per day. Anyone tells me Americans are not generous as hell, lets just say they'll need dental work.

Now to the main premise. Ma'am, with all due respect, these people do not want to go to America, or the UK, or Germany. They want to go home. It may come as a surprise to you, but they are as devoted to their homeland as you are. All they want is to return home with the reasonable expectation of not getting shot.
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[[ Eleanor Acer: US must lead the way with 15,000 Syrian (mostly Muslim) refugees resettled this year! ]]

Let us not lead the way.

"Resettle" them somewhere else...

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Where the hell do I begin?

Lets start with a thank you. The US provides a bleep ton of aid, and every last gram is appreciated. I've seen the stuff coming in. About 2/3 of it is in cases or sacks stamped USA. It comes from churches, private individuals, companies and aid agencies. Not just food. Diapers, medicines, cots, toys, clothes. All of them come in and the recipients are bleeping grateful. I am not talking the odd box - I am talking 7 cargo planes per day. Anyone tells me Americans are not generous as hell, lets just say they'll need dental work.

Now to the main premise. Ma'am, with all due respect, these people do not want to go to America, or the UK, or Germany. They want to go home. It may come as a surprise to you, but they are as devoted to their homeland as you are. All they want is to return home with the reasonable expectation of not getting shot.

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Americans used to do that - provide immediate aid, and then make sure the country was safe and stable. We did that after WWII and after the Korean War with great success for everyone.
Now there's a big move to change America, and Americans aren't the only ones who are losing because of these changes.

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Americans used to do that - provide immediate aid, and then make sure the country was safe and stable. We did that after WWII and after the Korean War with great success for everyone.
Now there's a big move to change America, and Americans aren't the only ones who are losing because of these changes.

You still do, my friend.

I'll give you one tiny example. We were running short on a lot of things at one stage. A single Baptist church in Louisiana sent 5 people (three retired nurses, a midwife and a priest) and 17 tons of supplies within 2 days. I know as a good Catholic I am supposed to tease Baptists - but damn. That shit is impressive.

You know what got me most though? The little knitted hats and robes for newborns. There was an entire damned box of them, and we are not talking a small box - think coffin sized. Somewhere in or around Shreveport there are still knitting needles smouldering from the speed they were used!

Now that is America at it's finest.
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You still do, my friend.

I'll give you one tiny example. We were running short on a lot of things at one stage. A single Baptist church in Louisiana sent 5 people (three retired nurses, a midwife and a priest) and 17 tons of supplies within 2 days. I know as a good Catholic I am supposed to tease Baptists - but damn. That shit is impressive.

You know what got me most though? The little knitted hats and robes for newborns. There was an entire damned box of them, and we are not talking a small box - think coffin sized. Somewhere in or around Shreveport there are still knitting needles smouldering from the speed they were used!

Now that is America at it's finest.

These are the same charities Obama would like to crush by taxing them more.
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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These are the same charities Obama would like to crush by taxing them more.

Obama believes that the only good can come from government. He can pretend I'm the pope and kiss my ring - and yes, in that sense.

Bunch of people got stuff together. Some of the stuff for the kids was prettily wrapped by the kids in the congregation and their friends at school. Lilac ribbon for girls presents, yellow for the boys (Note - never use green if you do a care package for a child). Fedex sent a full damned jet to deliver the stuff and threw in a shitload of food and bottled water. It was all close to use by date, so they probably got it pretty much for free from the caterers at the airport.
There was one case. Wood, nailed tight shut, but with "open this first" written on it in red marker. There were like 2000 cupcakes in there, in catering boxes. No clue where they came from. Only message at all was a bit of paper on top of the case that said enjoy in 4 languages.

You wonder why I admire Americans?


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You still do, my friend.

I'll give you one tiny example. We were running short on a lot of things at one stage. A single Baptist church in Louisiana sent 5 people (three retired nurses, a midwife and a priest) and 17 tons of supplies within 2 days. I know as a good Catholic I am supposed to tease Baptists - but damn. That shit is impressive.

You know what got me most though? The little knitted hats and robes for newborns. There was an entire damned box of them, and we are not talking a small box - think coffin sized. Somewhere in or around Shreveport there are still knitting needles smouldering from the speed they were used!

Now that is America at it's finest.

I guess I'm late to the story - but where are you?

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I guess I'm late to the story - but where are you?

Usually the UK, but I spent a fair amount of time in Syria (and Somalia, Rwanda, Ethiopia and other places I'd rather forget). There is a thread about it in the members only section - called MsF fun - if you are hugely interested. I wouldn't be, it's just day by day stuff.

I am lucky. No real need to work for other than pleasure any more, thanks to some lucky investments, residuals and a fair bit of hard work, so I spend my spare time volunteering. The doctors and nurses are the most wonderful people on the planet - but they do need guards.
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Usually the UK, but I spent a fair amount of time in Syria (and Somalia, Rwanda, Ethiopia and other places I'd rather forget). There is a thread about it in the members only section - called MsF fun - if you are hugely interested. I wouldn't be, it's just day by day stuff.

I am lucky. No real need to work for other than pleasure any more, thanks to some lucky investments, residuals and a fair bit of hard work, so I spend my spare time volunteering. The doctors and nurses are the most wonderful people on the planet - but they do need guards.

Thanks - I'll go by that thread.

Good for you. There's no way I could volunteer as much as you do. I'm jealous and also grateful that there are people like you.


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