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Offline happyg

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« on: April 04, 2014, 03:47:57 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 03:49:47 PM »
Full faith and credit has to have some meaning

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 04:08:45 PM »
Another chip away at the 10th Amendment.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 04:09:20 PM »
Gee, it's almost as though the legislative branch is irrelevant anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 04:39:01 PM »
Another chip away at the 10th Amendment.

how so?

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 04:46:31 PM »
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The key word there is respectively.

What this judgement is doing - in my sight, at least - is giving the state of New York a say in the inner workings of the state of Ohio.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 04:51:01 PM »
The key word there is respectively.

What this judgement is doing - in my sight, at least - is giving the state of New York a say in the inner workings of the state of Ohio.


Nope.  Article VI, Section 1:
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Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state.  And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

Can't be unconstitutional if it's in the Constitution

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2014, 04:54:31 PM »

Nope.  Article VI, Section 1:
Can't be unconstitutional if it's in the Constitution
Pistol permits, for instance, that are issued in one state do not have to be universally recognized in all 49 of the others.

What makes a marriage license any different? If anything, the state of New York would have to have "full faith and credit" in the laws of Ohio, where such a marriage is unlawful.

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2014, 04:59:57 PM »
Then why have state legislatures at all?

Does this mean a Texan can walk around NYC with a weapon with a 15 round magazine? Texas is open carry, and as much ammo as you can physically carry is fine (some might say expected  :laugh: ). It is the law in Texas, so New York has to accept that, by your reading of it.

Or take recreational pot use. If you are from Colorado, you can't be busted for possession anywhere else in the US? Simply because it is legal in your state.

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2014, 05:02:25 PM »
Pistol permits, for instance, that are issued in one state do not have to be universally recognized in all 49 of the others.

What makes a marriage license any different? If anything, the state of New York would have to have "full faith and credit" in the laws of Ohio, where such a marriage is unlawful.

Because a marriage is a public act, a pistol license is not, it's the granting of a mere privilege to an individual.

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2014, 07:15:18 PM »
Because a marriage is a public act, a pistol license is not, it's the granting of a mere privilege to an individual.

If they were privileges, I would agree with you. Both are rights. No one can grant them or remove them.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2014, 07:36:00 PM »
Because a marriage is a public act, a pistol license is not, it's the granting of a mere privilege to an individual.
What makes marriage any less of a 'mere privilege'?

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2014, 08:49:00 PM »
What makes marriage any less of a 'mere privilege'?

I really don't feel like going into the differences, because I'm sure you'll object at every turn.  go do some research and come back with an open mind.


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