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Whose Side Is God on Now?
« on: April 04, 2014, 11:22:59 AM »
Pat Buchanan



In his Kremlin defense of Russia's annexation of Crimea, Vladimir Putin, even before he began listing the battles where Russian blood had been shed on Crimean soil, spoke of an older deeper bond.

Crimea, said Putin, "is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus."

Russia is a Christian country, Putin was saying.

This speech recalls last December's address where the former KGB chief spoke of Russia as standing against a decadent West:

"Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation."

Heard any Western leader, say, Barack Obama, talk like that lately?

Indicting the "Bolsheviks" who gave away Crimea to Ukraine, Putin declared, "May God judge them."

What is going on here?

With Marxism-Leninism a dead faith, Putin is saying the new ideological struggle is between a debauched West led by the United States and a traditionalist world Russia would be proud to lead.

In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on God's side. The West is Gomorrah.

Western leaders who compare Putin's annexation of Crimea to Hitler's Anschluss with Austria, who dismiss him as a "KGB thug," who call him "the alleged thief, liar and murderer who rules Russia," as the Wall Street Journal's Holman Jenkins did, believe Putin's claim to stand on higher moral ground is beyond blasphemous.

But Vladimir Putin knows exactly what he is doing, and his new claim has a venerable lineage. The ex-Communist Whittaker Chambers who exposed Alger Hiss as a Soviet spy, was, at the time of his death in 1964, writing a book on "The Third Rome."

The first Rome was the Holy City and seat of Christianity that fell to Odoacer and his barbarians in 476 A.D. The second Rome was Constantinople, Byzantium, (today's Istanbul), which fell to the Turks in 1453. The successor city to Byzantium, the Third Rome, the last Rome to the old believers, was -- Moscow.

Putin is entering a claim that Moscow is the Godly City of today and command post of the counter-reformation against the new paganism.

More article at link: http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2014/04/04/whose-side-is-god-on-now-n1818499?utm_source=facebook



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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 11:28:30 AM »
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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 03:17:11 PM »
The West is Gomorrah.

Well, he does have a point here.



Interesting strategy on Putin's part, nyet??
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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 03:46:56 PM »
The West is Gomorrah.

Well, he does have a point here.



Interesting strategy on Putin's part, nyet??

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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 03:53:04 PM »
Putin can demonize the West and the US in particular as Gomorrah, buy he is actively aiding the Backdoor to the Middle East, Sodom Syria...


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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 04:20:59 PM »
Uh-oh.  This is looking more and more like Revelations.  I'm going to have to subscribe to some survivalist magazines and maybe build a bunker in my backyard.  Do secular urban atheists turn into zombies, I wonder?
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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 04:47:25 PM »
Character still matters.  It always matters.

May 3, 2016 - the day the Republican party left ME.  I am now without a Party, and quite possibly without a country.  May God have mercy!

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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2014, 07:27:08 PM »
Putin can demonize the West and the US in particular as Gomorrah, buy he is actively aiding the Backdoor to the Middle East, Sodom Syria...


and Iran...
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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM »
Mr. Buchanan writes:
[[ In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on God's side. The West is Gomorrah. ]]

Russia may or may not be on God's side, but Pat's absolutely right about The West slouching towards Gomorrah.

More from the article (you'd have to click through to read it):
[[ In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia's flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity. His recent speeches carry echoes of John Paul II whose Evangelium Vitae in 1995 excoriated the West for its embrace of a "culture of death." ]]

Sounds reasonable to me.

Pat continues:
[[ But the war to be waged with the West is not with rockets. It is a cultural, social, moral war where Russia's role, in Putin's words, is to "prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state." ]]

The West (Europe, the USA, and the other English-speaking nations), unable to counter islam's ongoing putsch to expand its realm, eventually may slip into a "new dark ages" as Western civilization, unwilling to protect itself or even realize that it has to protect itself, crumbles before mohammedism (which may come in the form of real jihad or by stealth as "cold jihad", aided and abetted by the left).

I sense the Russians, led by others after Putin who hold the same ideas, have a far better chance of surviving islam than do we...

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Re: Whose Side Is God on Now?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2014, 09:13:45 AM »
According to generations of belt buckles, the Germans ["Gott mit Uns"].  :smokin:
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