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Offline DCPatriot

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« on: April 01, 2014, 11:15:40 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2014, 11:24:03 PM »
Yellowtone is one of those supervolcano hotspots. If you drive Highway 15 from Montana into Idaho you will see an outcropping of lava from a past supervolcano eruption.Lake Toba in Indonesia falls into this catergory. It depends if geologists are picking up any surface movement or unusual activity in its caldera.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2014, 11:28:21 PM »
Seismic activity, save the two earthquake swarms (which are fairly common in Yellowstone) is at normal levels.  Add those two in and it was higher than normal.

Until they detect harmonic tremor, there is no evidence something is going to happen.

Bison move in and out of the park all the time.  This is why there was the huge debate for decades about ranchers shooting the bison which wandered onto their property.

The Epoch Times is about a reliable as DEBKA and World Nut Daily.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2014, 11:30:07 PM »
Seismic activity, save the two earthquake swarms (which are fairly common in Yellowstone) is at normal levels.  Add those two in and it was higher than normal.

Until they detect harmonic tremor, there is no evidence something is going to happen.

Bison move in and out of the park all the time.  This is why there was the huge debate for decades about ranchers shooting the bison which wandered onto their property.

The Epoch Times is about a reliable as DEBKA and World Nut Daily.

I agree. There is no movement in the caldera.

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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 11:39:46 PM »


This is the Yellowstone Caldera





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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 11:41:42 PM »
so when's it gonna blow?

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2014, 11:44:10 PM »
so when's it gonna blow?

Nobody knows. There is no known way to predict these things.We cant even predict a fool proof way to predict an earthquake. If there is activity on the surface is not normal they would probably close down the park. Geothermal activity on the surface on the increase is they key in this case. Sometimes though there is a foreshock then the main event event. Sometimes, there are rock slides and steam from the volcano before the main event
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 11:59:16 PM »
Nobody knows. There is no known way to predict these things.We cant even predict a fool proof way to predict an earthquake. If there is activity on the surface is not normal they would probably close down the park. Sometimes though there is a foreshock then the main event event. Sometimes, there are rock slides and steam from the volcano before the main event

And isn't that the point here?  Somebody decides that sudden animal movement our of the 'Park' could mean pressure is moving the rock....which everyone knows, animals can detect and hear well prior to any human ear is able.

This wasn't meant to be hard news....as much as 'current event'.  LOL! 
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 12:02:29 AM »
And isn't that the point here?  Somebody decides that sudden animal movement our of the 'Park' could mean pressure is moving the rock....which everyone knows, animals can detect and hear well prior to any human ear is able.

This wasn't meant to be hard news....as much as 'current event'.  LOL!

Its has mixed results. The Chinese and other civilizations have tried this method and it produced mixed results.But scientists involved should beware of having aspirations that are too high.
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 12:06:12 AM »
so when's it gonna blow?

It's been due to go off for a couple centuries. Could be a couple more before it does.

One thing I will say is that if you see animals moving out of an area, especially mixed herds or predators mixed with prey animals, it's normally a good idea to tag along. For big quakes, tsunamis, or eruptions, they seem to be better predictors than instruments.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 12:08:15 AM »
And isn't that the point here?  Somebody decides that sudden animal movement our of the 'Park' could mean pressure is moving the rock....which everyone knows, animals can detect and hear well prior to any human ear is able.

This wasn't meant to be hard news....as much as 'current event'.  LOL! 

yes, but can they show that this movement is out of the ordinary and not consistent with the normal movements of animals into and out of the park?

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 12:10:11 AM »
yes, but can they show that this movement is out of the ordinary and not consistent with the normal movements of animals into and out of the park?

 Again, using animals as earthquake predictors have had mix results over the many millennia. It would old fashioned science to predict earthquakes.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 12:14:10 AM »
It's been due to go off for a couple centuries. Could be a couple more before it does.

One thing I will say is that if you see animals moving out of an area, especially mixed herds or predators mixed with prey animals, it's normally a good idea to tag along. For big quakes, tsunamis, or eruptions, they seem to be better predictors than instruments.

One thing you won't see on Sci Fi shows, For the past 50 thousand years or so, that particular caldera has been moving deeper under the mountains and the risk reduced.

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 12:16:27 AM »
One thing you won't see on Sci Fi shows, For the past 50 thousand years or so, that particular caldera has been moving deeper under the mountains and the risk reduced.

you are such a wet blanket!!

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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2014, 01:35:43 AM »
One thing you won't see on Sci Fi shows, For the past 50 thousand years or so, that particular caldera has been moving deeper under the mountains and the risk reduced.

Or the risk expanded, if you want to be pessimistic. Instead of a mere mile or so depth of rock to blast out, it now has a couple of miles worth to play with.

Use the gunpowder analogy. Take a small pile of gunpowder, put it on the table, light it. You get a pffft noise, a bit of a flash, and a very pissed off mother. Put the same amount in a tube, packed tight .... whole different ball game.
We just don't know. Haven't had a mega volcano go off since before people discovered fire.
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 02:25:10 AM »
Or the risk expanded, if you want to be pessimistic. Instead of a mere mile or so depth of rock to blast out, it now has a couple of miles worth to play with.

Use the gunpowder analogy. Take a small pile of gunpowder, put it on the table, light it. You get a pffft noise, a bit of a flash, and a very pissed off mother. Put the same amount in a tube, packed tight .... whole different ball game.
We just don't know. Haven't had a mega volcano go off since before people discovered fire.


I agree. There is a megavolcano which is Mount Kilauea in Hawaii and USGS cannot predict when its goes off
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 02:33:01 AM »

I agree. There is a megavolcano which is Mount Kilauea in Hawaii and USGS cannot predict when its goes off

The megavolcano Mount Kilauea is situated on the hotspot what created the Hawaiian Island chain. Yellowstone is situated on a hotspot.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 06:30:18 AM »
More evidence that we Must stop fracking caused climate change.


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