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Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« on: March 29, 2014, 11:36:00 AM »

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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2014, 12:00:31 PM »
I just don't see a natural constituency out there for Perry.  Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are sucking up all the oxygen from the anti-establishment crowd, and Perry just doesn't have the pedigree to attract establishment money.  He can't get there from here, as far as I can tell.
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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2014, 12:45:16 PM »
Wish I could disagree with your assessment, but I can't. Cruz is going to have a problem, one which has been steadily building since he started getting national attention. He's inexperienced. Every single news story about him somehow manages to ram the word "freshman" into the first couple of lines, and that sticks after a while.

I like Perry, a lot. If he runs I'll work his campaign again (you'd be amazed at how much more responsive to calls people are if you have an English accent!), he'd make a damned fine president.
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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2014, 12:58:20 PM »
Perry should have a natural constituency with serious minded GOP voters, based on his record.

It is a long time yet to go. He ranks near the top with me.
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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 02:13:32 PM »
I just don't see a natural constituency out there for Perry.  Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are sucking up all the oxygen from the anti-establishment crowd, and Perry just doesn't have the pedigree to attract establishment money.  He can't get there from here, as far as I can tell.

I respectfully disagree!

Rick Perry has the distinction of having actually ran something and the two you mention, both great men in my book, are lacking in that regard.  That should be a BIG factor in 2016 given recent experience.

IF Rick Perry decides to run again I hope he will hire some people to help him that know what they are doing on the NATIONAL stage vs the clowns he used the last time.  Even then I would hope he would have the confidence to override their advice when necessary and stick to the stuff he knows and truly believes in. If he does that I think he will do just fine!

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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 03:36:21 PM »
I respectfully disagree!

Rick Perry has the distinction of having actually ran something and the two you mention, both great men in my book, are lacking in that regard.  That should be a BIG factor in 2016 given recent experience.

IF Rick Perry decides to run again I hope he will hire some people to help him that know what they are doing on the NATIONAL stage vs the clowns he used the last time.  Even then I would hope he would have the confidence to override their advice when necessary and stick to the stuff he knows and truly believes in. If he does that I think he will do just fine!

I hope you are right.  I could easily support him, as I did last time.  At this point, he'd be my second choice after Paul.
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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 03:53:53 PM »
I don't see how Perry can overcome his abysmal performance in 2012.  His debate debacles are still fresh in many minds.  He doesn't seem to be able to think on his feet.  And, his comment that if you are against amnesty "you don't have a heart" will not endear himself to Conservatives.

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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 04:03:42 PM »
I don't see how Perry can overcome his abysmal performance in 2012.  His debate debacles are still fresh in many minds.  He doesn't seem to be able to think on his feet.  And, his comment that if you are against amnesty "you don't have a heart" will not endear himself to Conservatives.

If he comes out hard in the debates, memory of 2012 will fade. To be fair, he was hurting all the time and on pain killers. Being forced to stand during the debates must have been total agony.

Amnesty - it's off the table. By Nov '16, it'll be a done deal, one way or another.
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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 04:51:30 PM »
Perry should have a natural constituency with serious minded GOP voters, based on his record.

It is a long time yet to go. He ranks near the top with me.

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Re: Can Rick Perry Get A Second Chance With GOP Voters In 2016
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 07:03:39 PM »
I don't think he'll make it, but I wish he would. He said that about in-state tuiton, not amnesty and the American populace has the attention span of a gnat. Perry would be a lot better than Christie or Jeb, the two contenders I dread winning.


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