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Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« on: March 28, 2014, 07:39:30 PM »
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 07:39:45 PM »
Not a big deal.
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2014, 07:40:55 PM »
Not a big deal.

Until he calls for Sharia Law.
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 07:52:25 PM »
Hmm... inner-city, minority-heavy district in a blue state.

Why do I have a feeling this guy is just being used as a placeholder? The Democrats probably will win 90-10, as they do in all districts of this type.

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 07:56:46 PM »
Hmm... inner-city, minority-heavy district in a blue state.

Why do I have a feeling this guy is just being used as a placeholder? The Democrats probably will win 90-10, as they do in all districts of this type.

Maybe, maybe not.  But we don't have religious tests in America.
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2014, 10:24:25 PM »
[[ But we don't have religious tests in America. ]]

We'd better develop some, if America (at least the America of our forefathers) is going to have any chance at survival.

And... -I- have a "religious test":
I will never -- let me repeat that, so even you can understand it - NEVER vote for an muslim, not even for dog catcher.

They don't belong in America and I believe they have no place in the American ideal.

islam (I will never capitalize that word, out of disrespect) is the antithesis of everything upon which this nation was founded. If left unconfronted, it will have the opportunity to take from us the freedoms which we cherish. It's but a matter of time, and our own refusal and inability to face up to reality.

What we are witnessing in Europe today, will eventually come for and consume us here.

Not everyone deserves the same freedoms and treatment. I say this not because I prefer it, but out of a need for the self-preservation of our culture and nations.
Mr. Jefferson "dreamed large" when he wrote about egalitarianism in that Declaration, but the dream isn't large enough for everyone. How much room is there for Christianity in the dreams of islam?

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 10:54:06 PM »
You're not an American.  You're a fascist.  We have no religious tests in America.  If someone is terrorizing other citizens arrest him.

But no one is deprived of rights without probable cause.  And "being Muslim" is not probable cause.


That is correct.. The Constitution is a suicide pact..
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 12:15:24 AM »
hatred is an ugly, ugly thing:  one need only look to the various pogroms at Freerepublic, aka TOS, to see that.


Funny how the second section of that material just happened to be omitted; failure to fully disclose can be the same as affirmatively misrepresenting, so in the interests of avoiding any possible misrepresentation, here's that second part:

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Askar is basing his positive message of opportunity on conservative values including better schools and school choice, small businesses, family values, and promoting diversity within our communities.

Better schools?  School choice??  Small businesses???  Family values????

Why he's a stark raving mad nanny-state progressive, ain't he?

Not.

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 12:47:16 AM »

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 08:20:20 AM »

Not everyone deserves the same freedoms....


Sir, with all due respect, I could not disagree with you more profoundly.
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 10:52:46 AM »
“If he will lie to or mislead his wife and daughter, those with whom he is most intimate, what will prevent him from doing the same to the American public? Private conduct does have public consequences.”
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2014, 10:54:18 AM »
massadvj wrote:
[[ Sir, with all due respect, I could not disagree with you more profoundly. ]]

Disagree if you wish.
How many "freedoms" do Christians have in islamic countries?

As kevindavis suggested above, the Constitution should not become a "suicide pact".
As currently written, it is.

Those who despise us will continue to migrate here, and continue to use the "protections of egalitarianism" written into the Constitution and practiced by our government, until they gain enough strength by numbers to trample on those very liberties through which they gained control.

Wherever muslims have gained control, they have done this. There is no room in their societies for non-mulsims -- at least, insofar as the concept of "freedom" is concerned.

Historically, muslims have expanded the realm of "dar el islam" through military conquest. But in The West, they can lay down their arms. There will be no resistance here, by force of arms or otherwise. Instead, we are WELCOMING them, and facilitating their efforts. All one needs to do is read the news articles posted almost daily RIGHT HERE to see this happening.

We are literally watching the culture of the Christian West "slowly submit" to islam and its demands. We are bowing before muhammed as deeply as did Obama before the king of Saud.

islam is patient. If it takes a hundred years, they'll wait it out, spreading and growing like kudzu around the body of The West. And then, that peaceful kudzu will transform into a boa constrictor to strangle us.

I don't believe they should be given that chance. In this instance, the ends DO justify the means.

I want The West to survive. I make no apologies for that.
If "survival" means treating them here as they treat us there, I'll accept that as "the cost of freedom".

You may reply that the cost is too high. That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
But I've come to the conclusion that there can be no place for muslims in The West.

To paraphrase what a wise lady once said, although we can ignore reality, we will not be able to ignore the eventual consequences of ignoring reality...
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 11:49:11 AM »
massadvj wrote:
[[ Sir, with all due respect, I could not disagree with you more profoundly. ]]

Disagree if you wish.
How many "freedoms" do Christians have in islamic countries?

As kevindavis suggested above, the Constitution should not become a "suicide pact".
As currently written, it is.

Those who despise us will continue to migrate here, and continue to use the "protections of egalitarianism" written into the Constitution and practiced by our government, until they gain enough strength by numbers to trample on those very liberties through which they gained control.

Wherever muslims have gained control, they have done this. There is no room in their societies for non-mulsims -- at least, insofar as the concept of "freedom" is concerned.

Historically, muslims have expanded the realm of "dar el islam" through military conquest. But in The West, they can lay down their arms. There will be no resistance here, by force of arms or otherwise. Instead, we are WELCOMING them, and facilitating their efforts. All one needs to do is read the news articles posted almost daily RIGHT HERE to see this happening.

We are literally watching the culture of the Christian West "slowly submit" to islam and its demands. We are bowing before muhammed as deeply as did Obama before the king of Saud.

islam is patient. If it takes a hundred years, they'll wait it out, spreading and growing like kudzu around the body of The West. And then, that peaceful kudzu will transform into a boa constrictor to strangle us.

I don't believe they should be given that chance. In this instance, the ends DO justify the means.

I want The West to survive. I make no apologies for that.
If "survival" means treating them here as they treat us there, I'll accept that as "the cost of freedom".

You may reply that the cost is too high. That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
But I've come to the conclusion that there can be no place for muslims in The West.

To paraphrase what a wise lady once said, although we can ignore reality, we will not be able to ignore the eventual consequences of ignoring reality...

 goopo   :hands:

Thank You, Fishrrman, for consistently posting the Truth on this manner, unpopular as it may be here.

At least we still get to express our opinions.  I am sure that you fully understand, that for many, this Truth is just to difficult to comprehend and accept.

And you are spot on with the Ayn Rand quote, unfortunately, by the time our children and grandchildren get around to those consequences of this generation ignoring that reality, it will be too late.  izlam needs to be removed from Western Civilization, root and branch, otherwise "dar el izlam" will simply destroy it, it is only a matter of time.  And I guess looking at what has gone on in Europe over the past few decades is somehow deemed as an outlier of sorts.  Sad thing is, the total course of history in this matter has to be viewed as the same type of "outlier."  smh

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2014, 12:14:42 PM »
islam is patient. If it takes a hundred years, they'll wait it out, spreading and growing like kudzu around the body of The West. And then, that peaceful kudzu will transform into a boa constrictor to strangle us.

Well said. Islam is very patient indeed. And the simple truth of the matter is that you can not be a good Sunni or Shia Muslim and obey the Constitution (or the other Western systems, written or unwritten). Alawite - maybe. They are far closer to Christianity than anything else, but I am really not sure they could fit.

I say this as someone who likes most of the Muslims I've met and respects them enough to learn the culture and the language.
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2014, 12:24:58 PM »
Well said. Islam is very patient indeed. And the simple truth of the matter is that you can not be a good Sunni or Shia Muslim and obey the Constitution (or the other Western systems, written or unwritten). Alawite - maybe. They are far closer to Christianity than anything else, but I am really not sure they could fit.

I say this as someone who likes most of the Muslims I've met and respects them enough to learn the culture and the language.


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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2014, 12:37:39 PM »
Well said. Islam is very patient indeed. And the simple truth of the matter is that you can not be a good Sunni or Shia Muslim and obey the Constitution (or the other Western systems, written or unwritten). Alawite - maybe. They are far closer to Christianity than anything else, but I am really not sure they could fit.

I say this as someone who likes most of the Muslims I've met and respects them enough to learn the culture and the language.

You cannot be a good Democrat and obey the constitution, either.  Should we deprive Democrats of their rights as well? 
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2014, 12:47:48 PM »
Well said. Islam is very patient indeed. And the simple truth of the matter is that you can not be a good Sunni or Shia Muslim and obey the Constitution (or the other Western systems, written or unwritten). Alawite - maybe. They are far closer to Christianity than anything else, but I am really not sure they could fit.

I say this as someone who likes most of the Muslims I've met and respects them enough to learn the culture and the language.

And the exact same thing was said of Catholics - or Papists as they liked to refer to us - even after the first Catholic president was elected (JFK).  The argument was simple:  Catholics are beholden to the Pope first and foremost and therefore cannot be trusted to put America first before their religious obligations.

It was bigoted hatred then and it's bigoted hatred now.

Everyone should, to the extent humanly possible, be judged as, and treated as, an individual first and foremost.  That doesn't mean one has to be a suicidally tolerant liberal, it means that one should take to heart the advice of that old RINO, Ronald Reagan, to trust, but verify.  In other words, trust your neighbor until he gives you reason - through his actions - to do otherwise.

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2014, 12:48:13 PM »
You cannot be a good Democrat and obey the constitution, either.  Should we deprive Democrats of their rights as well?

Hopefully in November  :0001:
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2014, 12:54:54 PM »
Hopefully in November  :0001:

Holding office is not a right.  Running for office is.  As is speaking your mind, holding a religious belief and owning property.  I share your hope that we deprive Democrats their elected offices.  But much as I hate what they stand for I would never deny them their God-given, fundamental rights to life, liberty and property.  Nor would I to any man who has not violated my rights or the rights of others.
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2014, 12:56:57 PM »
Holding office is not a right.  Running for office is.  As is speaking your mind, holding a religious belief and owning property.  I share your hope that we deprive Democrats their elected offices.  But much as I hate what they stand for I would never deny them their God-given, fundamental rights to life, liberty and property.  Nor would I to any man who has not violated my rights or the rights of others.

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2014, 02:08:00 PM »
massadvj wrote above:
[[ But much as I hate what they stand for I would never deny them their God-given, fundamental rights to life, liberty and property. ]]

Very well.
But given the chance, islam will deny YOU those same God-given fundamental rights to life, liberty and property.

Such concepts simply don't exist under their rules and their laws.

Let me put it this way:
Do you think all the cells of your own body have a God-given, fundamental right to exist within you? Each and every one?

From your previous postings, I will assume the answer must be "yes". Nothing wrong with that, sounds logical.

But.... what if you discover the growth of -cancer- cells within yourself?
What would your doctor recommend?
What would you want?
Even if the cancer cells found did not seem particularly malignant at the moment?

Would you wish to have them removed, for the good of your own body?

BUT WAIT -- don't ALL cells have the same "God-given right to exist?"

After all, the cancer cells may not yet pose a grave threat to your existence. So, don't they have a "right" to exist, as well?

What shall the answer be?

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2014, 02:16:52 PM »
Let me guess.  YOU get to determine who the cancer cells in the body politic are.

What other ideologies, religious faiths, or political agendas do you not like so if any of us share those we can know if we're on your hit list?
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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2014, 02:38:35 PM »
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trust, but verify

I like that...and wholeheartedly agree......I verified that just about every terrorist attack in the last 20 years have been committed by Muslims....I didn't see any Catholics fly airplanes into buildings on 9-11 or blow up our embassies in Africa in 98.....my son and husband spent almost 4 years fighting them in Iraq...am I a racist...I guess I am.

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2014, 02:53:01 PM »
I like that...and wholeheartedly agree......I verified that just about every terrorist attack in the last 20 years have been committed by Muslims....I didn't see any Catholics fly airplanes into buildings on 9-11 or blow up our embassies in Africa in 98.....my son and husband spent almost 4 years fighting them in Iraq...am I a racist...I guess I am.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. My son was also in Iraq fighting the monsters. How do you distinguish the good ones, when many of them are educated, including doctors, and seemingly family men? Will your Muslim neighbor turn on you at the first order?  How many Muslims are denouncing what Islamic fanatics are doing? A large majority of American Muslims thought the attacks on the Towers were justified. How many Americans need to be killed to admit Muslims are trying to destroy this country?

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Re: Minnesota: GOP endorses Somali Muslim for state house
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2014, 02:56:42 PM »
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. My son was also in Iraq fighting the monsters. How do you distinguish the good ones, when many of them are educated, including doctors, and seemingly family men? Will your Muslim neighbor turn on you at the first order?  How many Muslims are denouncing what Islamic fanatics are doing? A large majority of American Muslims thought the attacks on the Towers were justified. How many Americans need to be killed to admit Muslims are trying to destroy this country?

Well said....and definitely agree!

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