Author Topic: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING  (Read 858 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 262,149
OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« on: March 26, 2014, 10:48:02 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-meets-pope-francis-looks-catholic-boost-020914918.html


Obama meets Pope Francis, looks for Catholic boost
AFP
By Tangi Quemener, Jean-Louis de la Vaissiere 35 minutes ago

Vatican City (AFP) - Barack Obama will meet Pope Francis for the first time Thursday for talks on a shared agenda to fight inequality which the US President hopes will help boost support at home.


The talks between the first Latin-American pope and first African-American US president will focus on tackling the gap between the rich and the poor, but are likely to spill over into thornier issues such as abortion, homosexuals and contraception.

The meeting at the Vatican comes as a welcome rest-stop for Obama during a six-day European tour dominated by the crisis over Crimea, and the US leader will doubtless be hoping some of the pope's overwhelming popularity will rub off on him.

Obama will also meet new Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi and the country's president Giorgio Napolitano during his visit to the eternal city, as well as going on a private guided tour of the Colosseum.

Diplomatic relations between Italy and the United States are close, though Rome still needs some convincing on the value of imposing sanctions on Russia over the Ukraine crisis, amid fears it would take a toll on a key market.

Italy's 39-year-old Renzi, who used Obama-style catchy slogans and social media campaigns to shoot up the political ladder, will be keen to strengthen ties with the US leader.

But political watchers say the meeting with the former boy scout will be overshadowed by talks and a photo opportunity with the 77-year-old pope.

Obama is "mostly going I think to bask in the glow of the new Pope," said Jeremy Shapiro, visiting fellow at Washington's Brookings institute.



His main aim will be "to highlight their sort of mutual attention to the problems of poverty and inequality. This isn't really a foreign policy stop," he said.

- 'Challenge' of income inequality -

According to the White House, Obama hopes to speak to the pope about their "shared commitment to fighting growing inequality", though the peace process in the Middle East, the environment and immigration are also expected to be on the table.

Obama, whose approval rating has been slipping, will be keen to repeat his denunciations about income inequality, which he has described as "the defining challenge of our time".

Earlier this month, he used the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington to argue that his calls for tax hikes on the rich and curbs on abuses by big banks had a strong moral and religious grounding, in an election-year swipe at Republicans.

Pious religious observance should guide political motives and lead to policies that help the sick and the needy, he said -- echoing Francis's rallying cry for more to be done for the poor and disadvantaged.

The pope's critical comments about capitalism last year saw him forced to rebuff accusations from rightwing Americans that his teaching is Marxist. But his condemnation of "the economy of exclusion and inequality" won the support of progressive Catholics.

Obama said he was "hugely impressed" by Francis's inclusive approach after the pope called for the Church to stop obsessing debating teachings on abortion, homosexuals and contraception.

However, Vatican experts say the relationship is not as cosy as it once was between pope Jean Paul II and Ronald Reagan, and Francis is unlikely to refrain from tackling Obama on his domestic and foreign policy.

The pontiff spoke out strongly against a proposed military intervention by the US in Syria last year, organising a vigil at the Vatican which drew tens of thousands of people.

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has repeatedly challenged Obama's signature accomplishment, the Affordable Care Act, arguing that it the health care scheme violates religious freedom by requiring for-profit corporations to provide insurance for contraception.

Controversy surrounding the Affordable Care Act and Obama's drop in popularity risk resulting in a Republican victory in an upcoming Senate election, which would dramatically weaken the US leader's negotiating position for his remaining two years in power.

Religious expert John Allen told Vatican Radio Obama will be fishing for Catholic votes to help him keep a hold on the Senate.

Words of support from Francis would certainly boost his case: a survey published by the Saint-Leo University found that Francis was popular with 85 percent of Catholics and 63 percent of Americans.

Support the USO

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 262,149
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 10:54:46 PM »
Quote
Obama is "mostly going I think to bask in the glow of the new Pope," said Jeremy Shapiro, visiting fellow at Washington's Brookings institute.

I hate this POS...have I mentioned this lately!!!
« Last Edit: March 26, 2014, 10:55:17 PM by mystery-ak »

Support the USO

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 11:04:46 PM »
The article actually reports Obama is going for a photo-op. At least it doesn't say the messiah to meet the Pope.

Further reading of the article...Obama actually thinks this Holy man is a marxist like he is. Obama thinks that the Pope will say something pro-choice and praise Obama.

This is sick.

You can go no lower. Using the Pope to bring his approval ratings up as his wife is sucking up to commie China and Obama has not one good policy foreign or domestic, other than Obama getting OBL-AS the SOB guts our military! Obama will probably ask the Pope to do a stint for Obamacare. Obama thinks the Pope and others will think Obamacare is for the poor and Obama is a messiah.

YOU.CANNOT.GET.ANY.LOWER Obama is such a partisan hack POS
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline EC

  • Shanghaied Editor
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 23,836
  • Cats rule. Dogs drool.
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 12:01:17 AM »
May His Holiness Bless Obama appropriately.

The universe doesn't hate you. Unless your name is Tsutomu Yamaguchi

Avatar courtesy of Oceander

I've got a website now: Smoke and Ink

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 07:46:07 AM »
There is not enough Holy Water.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline mountaineer

  • Member
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 38,201
  • Paranoid Hillbilly
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 08:16:57 AM »
“Hell hath no fury like a vested interest masquerading as a moral principle.” - Ryan T Anderson

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 262,149
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 09:45:47 AM »

Support the USO

Offline andy58-in-nh

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,476
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 10:06:45 AM »
I suppose it might have been worse.

Obama might have brought the Pope an iPod filled with his speeches.

Or else asked Francis to kiss his ring.
Liberalism isn't really about making the world a better place. It's about reassuring the elites that they are good people for wanting to rule over it.

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 262,149
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 10:54:43 AM »

Support the USO

Offline EC

  • Shanghaied Editor
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 23,836
  • Cats rule. Dogs drool.
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 11:13:37 AM »
Nice gift. Multiple levels of symbolism. Very appropriate.
The universe doesn't hate you. Unless your name is Tsutomu Yamaguchi

Avatar courtesy of Oceander

I've got a website now: Smoke and Ink

Offline flowers

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 18,786
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 12:41:32 PM »
Getting popularity tips Mr President? Barack Obama hopes for 'Francis bounce' as he meets Pope for first time and asks him to pray for his family because they have to 'put up' with him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2590566/Getting-popularity-tips-Barack-Obama-meets-Pope-Francis-time-says-great-honour.html

Quote
Obama arrived this morning at the Vatican's ornate grounds
After a slow procession he was introduced to Pope Francis
Obama said that it was wonderful and a great honour to meet the Pontiff
Their private discussion went over by nearly half hour
Obama presented the Pope with a chest of fruit and vegetable seeds
It is hoped the seeds will be planted in gardens of the papal residence
Pope Francis has a 76 per cent approval rating in the U.S. according to poll

Obama then presented the pope with a seed chest with fruit and vegetable seeds used in the White House Garden


Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 01:11:21 PM »
Quote
Obama, Pope Francis meet for the 1st time

Although their meeting on Thursday was cordial, the White House and Vatican gave differing accounts of how it went.

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- President Barack Obama and the Vatican gave distinctly different accounts of the president's audience with Pope Francis, with Obama stressing their common ground over issues of poverty and inequality and Vatican officials emphasizing sharp differences over abortion and birth control.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/03/27/obama-tells-pope-francis-he-is-a-great-admirer/20857819/#!slide=2507699
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 01:15:52 PM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Howie66

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 798
  • MOLON LABE & SEMPER FI!
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2014, 01:23:52 PM »
I hate this POS...have I mentioned this lately!!!

Total agreement!  :beer:
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders (Note: Mattis did NOT say "BLEEP". He threw the F Bomb)

I didn't enlist in the Corps just to watch my country become a Third World Communist Shit-hole. Don't know anyone who did.

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2014, 01:26:02 PM »
Quote
Pope tells Obama of concern for 'religious freedom' in U.S
 
1 hour ago
 
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis and Vatican officials on Thursday told U.S. President Barack Obama they were concerned about "religious freedom" in the United States, an apparent reference to the contraception mandate in Obama's health care plan.

Obama held nearly an hour of private talks with the pope and then the president and Secretary of State John Kerry held separate talks with Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin and other diplomats.

The talks included "discussion on questions of particular relevance for the Church" in the United States, including "the exercise of the rights to religious freedom, life and conscientious objection," a Vatican statement said.

Obama's 2010 healthcare law, widely opposed by Republicans, includes a provision that requires employers to cover the cost of contraception in their health insurance plans.

Catholic and other religious groups say the mandate forces them to support contraception and sterilization in violation of their religious beliefs or face steep fines.

The so-called contraception mandate has been the subject of more than 100 lawsuits across the United States.

Just this week the U.S. Supreme Court signaled it may allow corporations to mount religious objections to government action, possibly paving the way for companies to avoid covering employees' birth control as required under Obamacare.

During a 90-minute oral argument on Tuesday, the nine Supreme Court justices appeared ready to rule that certain for-profit entities have the same religious rights to object as individuals do.

There is an exception for religious institutions such as houses of worship that mainly serve and employ members of their own faith, but not schools, hospitals and charitable organizations employing people of all faiths.

The reference to "life" was reference to the Roman Catholic Church's opposition to abortion. Obama supports abortion rights.

The subject was raised when Obama met then-pope Benedict in 2009, when the president promised to do everything he could to reduce the number of abortions.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-tells-obama-concern-religious-freedom-u-155928809--sector.html;_ylt=AwrTWVWPUTRTdDQAGIfQtDMD

My guess is Obama was kindly schooled on religious freedom and abortion.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Howie66

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 798
  • MOLON LABE & SEMPER FI!
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2014, 01:27:39 PM »
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders (Note: Mattis did NOT say "BLEEP". He threw the F Bomb)

I didn't enlist in the Corps just to watch my country become a Third World Communist Shit-hole. Don't know anyone who did.

Offline alicewonders

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 13,057
  • Live life-it's too short to butt heads w buttheads
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2014, 01:41:43 PM »
Wonder how long it took for the smell of sulfur to dissipate from the interior of the Vatican?

 They have specialists who can deal with that.   :whistle:
Don't tread on me.   8888madkitty

We told you Trump would win - bigly!

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 262,149
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2014, 01:47:09 PM »

Support the USO

Offline Howie66

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 798
  • MOLON LABE & SEMPER FI!
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2014, 01:49:28 PM »
May His Holiness Bless Obama appropriately.



 :amen: :amen: :amen:

Short, sweet and to the point!   :beer:
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders (Note: Mattis did NOT say "BLEEP". He threw the F Bomb)

I didn't enlist in the Corps just to watch my country become a Third World Communist Shit-hole. Don't know anyone who did.

Offline Howie66

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 798
  • MOLON LABE & SEMPER FI!
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2014, 01:50:38 PM »
They have specialists who can deal with that.   :whistle:
goopo
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders (Note: Mattis did NOT say "BLEEP". He threw the F Bomb)

I didn't enlist in the Corps just to watch my country become a Third World Communist Shit-hole. Don't know anyone who did.

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 262,149
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2014, 03:44:33 PM »

Support the USO

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2014, 08:21:11 PM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2014, 08:27:35 PM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,968
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2014, 08:30:59 PM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Oceander

  • Technical
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 48,946
  • TBR Illuminati
Re: OBAMA TO VATICAN FOR POPE BLESSING
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2014, 08:53:44 PM »
It must have taken the will of a saint to abide by Obama without giving him a dope slap.


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf