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Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« on: March 24, 2014, 10:06:45 AM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10717566/Aborted-babies-incinerated-to-heat-UK-hospitals.html

Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

The remains of more than 15,000 babies were incinerated as 'clinical waste' by hospitals in Britain with some used in 'waste to energy' plants



By Sarah Knapton, Science Correspondent

7:00AM GMT 24 Mar 2014


The bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried babies were incinerated as clinical waste, with some even used to heat hospitals, an investigation has found.

Ten NHS trusts have admitted burning foetal remains alongside other rubbish while two others used the bodies in ‘waste-to-energy’ plants which generate power for heat.

Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded ‘totally unacceptable.’

At least 15,500 foetal remains were incinerated by 27 NHS trusts over the last two years alone, Channel 4’s Dispatches discovered.

The programme, which will air tonight, found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted about what they wanted to happen to the remains.

 One of the country’s leading hospitals, Addenbrooke’s in Cambridge, incinerated 797 babies below 13 weeks gestation at their own ‘waste to energy’ plant. The mothers were told the remains had been ‘cremated.’

Another ‘waste to energy’ facility at Ipswich Hospital, operated by a private contractor, incinerated 1,101 foetal remains between 2011 and 2013.

They were brought in from another hospital before being burned, generating energy for the hospital site. Ipswich Hospital itself disposes of remains by cremation.

“This practice is totally unacceptable,” said Dr Poulter.

“While the vast majority of hospitals are acting in the appropriate way, that must be the case for all hospitals and the Human Tissue Authority has now been asked to ensure that it acts on this issue without delay.”

Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS Medical Director, has written to all NHS trusts to tell them the practice must stop.

The Chief Medical Officer, Dame Sally Davies, has also written to the Human Tissue Authority to ask them make sure that guidance is clear.

And the Care Quality Commission said it would investigate the programme's findings.

Prof Sir Mike Richards, Chief Inspector of Hospitals, said: “I am disappointed trusts may not be informing or consulting women and their families.

“This breaches our standard on respecting and involving people who use services and I’m keen for Dispatches to share their evidence with us.

“We scrutinise information of concern and can inspect unannounced, if required.”

A total of one in seven pregnancies ends in a miscarriage, while NHS figures show there are around 4,000 stillbirths each year in the UK, or 11 each day.

Ipswich Hospital Trust said it was concerned to discover that foetal remains from another hospital had been incinerated on its site.

A spokeswoman said: “The Ipswich Hospital NHS Trust does not incinerate foetal remains.”

She added that the trust “takes great care over foetal remains”

A spokesman for the Cambridge University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust said that trained health professionals discuss the options with parents ‘both verbally and in writing.’

"The parents are given exactly the same choice on the disposal of foetal remains as for a stillborn child and their personal wishes are respected,” they added.

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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2014, 10:22:55 AM »

There is nothing new under the sun.
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2014, 10:28:18 AM »
have admitted burning foetal remains alongside other rubbish


Other rubbish???

OTHER rubbish??????????
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2014, 10:33:15 AM »
More BTUs in a politician.

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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 10:42:25 AM »
Gee.....yet another, "Let's rile a Catholic!" headline!    How unusual.        :whistle:    [/s]
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2014, 10:44:27 AM »
Rile a Catholic? What the heck does that mean?
This is one Presbyterian who is disgusted by what was described in this story. Denominational affiliation has nothing to do with common decency.
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2014, 10:48:19 AM »
Rile a Catholic? What the heck does that mean?
This is one Presbyterian who is disgusted by what was described in this story. Denominational affiliation has nothing to do with common decency.


Sorry....maybe I should have typed "Christian".


who knows how to spell "Presbyterian"?    :laugh: 
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 10:52:48 AM »
Rile a Catholic? What the heck does that mean?
This is one Presbyterian who is disgusted by what was described in this story. Denominational affiliation has nothing to do with common decency.

For them to treat those aborted fetuses with 'common decency' would be for them to admit that the remains are 'special'.

It's impossible for them to concede on that argument and maintain their position on abortion and a woman's right to choose.
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2014, 10:55:52 AM »
For them to treat those aborted fetuses with 'common decency' would be for them to admit that the remains are 'special'.
It's impossible for them to concede on that argument and maintain their position on abortion and a woman's right to choose.
True.
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Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2014, 11:09:16 AM »
Duh. Who didn't know this happens?

All biohazardous waste - which includes fetuses, used needles, legs, necrotic kidneys, adult diapers, and bandages, is disposed of by incineration. Basically - if it can rot, it gets burnt.
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