Author Topic: The Beltway GOP Establishment is Pushing a Pro-Abortion Senate Candidate on Oregon  (Read 854 times)

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And since we don't live in Oregon then Oregon should decide who they want to represent them and this is why the RNC, RNSC and RNCC should stay out of primaries.

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Speaking of State Rep. Jason Conger, he, too, doesn't approve of Ted Cruz and his take-no-prisoners actions:
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Republican Jason Conger enters Senate race, calling Democrat Jeff Merkley 'missing in action'

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He said he probably "would have voted against" a spending bill that didn't include the delay or defunding of the health care law at first.  But he said he would "not have engaged in the brinksmanship" undertaken by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and other hard-line opponents of the health care law.

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And on abortion, and the Senate, Mr. Conger has had this to say:
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Conger described himself as "strongly pro-life," but added that "the U.S. Senate doesn't play a big role" in crafting abortion law and "that's not what I'm expecting to spend my time doing in [Washington] D.C."
Source:  On the Issues:  Jason Conger on Abortion (citing to Statesman-Journal article: "Conger announces bid" , Oct 15, 2013)

Hmmm ...?  Is he really a "true conservative" then?  And is he really the candidate that he's being portrayed as?

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And since we don't live in Oregon then Oregon should decide who they want to represent them and this is why the RNC, RNSC and RNCC should stay out of primaries.

Then you shouldn't be posting articles here about Oregonian politics where anyone other than someone who lives in Oregon can read them.  Otherwise, you're just interfering in Oregonian politics and, last I recalled, you don't live in Oregon.

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Then you shouldn't be posting articles here about Oregonian politics where anyone other than someone who lives in Oregon can read them.  Otherwise, you're just interfering in Oregonian politics and, last I recalled, you don't live in Oregon.

Chief lives in Oregon I think he can decide. 

And frankly your comment is silly I post articles all the time - I didn't state you shouldn't refute what is posted I said I don't believe the RNC, RNSC and RNCC shoud be endorsing in primaries -- aka the RNSC and John McCain, Cornyn, etc,., in Florida during the Crist -Rubio campaign and many other states.  Once there is a winner then and only then should they take sides - their jobs are to be neutral in a primary.

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Chief lives in Oregon I think he can decide. 

And frankly your comment is silly I post articles all the time - I didn't state you shouldn't refute what is posted I said I don't believe the RNC, RNSC and RNCC shoud be endorsing in primaries -- aka the RNSC and John McCain, Cornyn, etc,., in Florida during the Crist -Rubio campaign and many other states.  Once there is a winner then and only then should they take sides - their jobs are to be neutral in a primary.

You're still interfering in Oregonian politics.  If you can, then why can't the rest of us?

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You're still interfering in Oregonian politics.  If you can, then why can't the rest of us?

Are you a member of the RNC, RNSC or RNCC???   If not you are just being pedantic...  as a matter of fact since this is such a flipping big deal to you why don't you go post what you found over on Red State  - or are you just saying I should not post articles for other members of TBR to read?  IF so take it up with Mystery and R4.

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Are you a member of the RNC, RNSC or RNCC???   If not you are just being pedantic...  as a matter of fact since this is such a flipping big deal to you why don't you go post what you found over on Red State  - or are you just saying I should not post articles for other members of TBR to read?  IF so take it up with Mystery and R4.


Touched a nerve then, did we?

Being pedantic?  Hardly.  I'm asking a serious question:  you stated that non-Oregonians should butt out of Oregon's local affairs, but you nonetheless posted a very slanted article on Oregonian affairs for us non-Oregonians to read (and, presumably, to react to).  In other words, you aren't following your own advice.  That deserves an answer.

Am I telling you not to post articles about Oregon politics?  No.  I'm rather glad that you do because I would never have known anything about this race if you hadn't posted it.  What I am just pointing out is that a necessary conclusion from your own statements is that you should not be posting articles about Oregon politics since you are not an Oregonian and neither are most of us.

In other words, the only person saying you shouldn't be posting articles about Oregon politics is you.

I, for one, hope that you'll disregard your own advice (and, ultimately, reconsider your advice as well).

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Touched a nerve then, did we?

Being pedantic?  Hardly.  I'm asking a serious question:  you stated that non-Oregonians should butt out of Oregon's local affairs, but you nonetheless posted a very slanted article on Oregonian affairs for us non-Oregonians to read (and, presumably, to react to).  In other words, you aren't following your own advice.  That deserves an answer.

Am I telling you not to post articles about Oregon politics?  No.  I'm rather glad that you do because I would never have known anything about this race if you hadn't posted it.  What I am just pointing out is that a necessary conclusion from your own statements is that you should not be posting articles about Oregon politics since you are not an Oregonian and neither are most of us.

In other words, the only person saying you shouldn't be posting articles about Oregon politics is you.

I, for one, hope that you'll disregard your own advice (and, ultimately, reconsider your advice as well).

I said the RNC, RNSC and the RNCC should stay out of primaries.  I don't know why you are trying to pick a fight but go take it up with Mystery.  As a matter of fact I will do it for you.
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I said the RNC, RNSC and the RNCC should stay out of primaries.  I don't know why you are trying to pick a fight but go take it up with Mystery.  As a matter of fact I will do it for you.

I'm taking exception to a particularly parochial, one-sided, view that pops up whenever somebody's favorite ox is being gored.  Aside from the fact that non-Oregonians might simply be motivated by care for their fellow humans - a motivation that I would certainly not ascribe to that alphabet soup - the person Oregonians choose to be one of their Senators is very much a national concern because who that person is, what party that person belongs to, and how that person votes as a Senator has a very significant impact on what happens to me and to all other non-Oregonians.  To start with, it matters whether that person is an 'R' or a 'D' because the party with the larger number of members is the party that gets to control the Senate and set its agenda.  Furthermore, how that person votes will determine whether a given piece of legislation becomes law or not, which means that how that person votes will determine how federal law will seek to control or affect the lives of every non-Oregonian.
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Saying that the RNC and RNSC should stay out of primaries is ridiculous.  The RNSC has ALWAYS defended incumbents.

In Texas, for instance, can you imagine the RNSC not defending John Cornyn and acting as if it was just dandy with them if a total fool like Steve Stockman defeated Cornyn?

Don't be silly.  If the seat is open, I could see your point.  But if there's a Republican incumbent or a Democrat incumbent, then there should be no problem with the outfit charged with electing Republicans to take a stance.
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I want the RNC & the RNSC & every other R group to pay attention to all of the Senatorial races this year. We need as many R's as we can get, and from wherever we can get them. It's pretty important that some group vets the primary candidates so that the race isn't between a relatively good dim candidate and a GOPer with a problematic background or personality.
It's important to all of us that GOPers win in every state possible. We have as much interest in the Oregon elections as we do in the ones in our own state.

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OR has a rat Gov, 2 rat Senators(Ron Wyden is one), 4 rat congressmen and one GOP congressman (NRCC Chairman and RINO Greg Walden - Club for Growth is trying to get rid of the only GOP representation in the federal government from OR) and OR has rat control in both houses of the state legislature.  Clearly the GOPe has failed to offer a real choice of fresh and patriotic Conservatism to the people of OR.  FOR LIBERTY!!!

Most states have one or more restrictions on abortion.  A waiting period, parental notification, no tax payer funding.  Oregon has none of these restrictions.  The people of OR loves some abortion. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/sfaa/oregon.html

Great posts Oceander
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