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Offline happyg

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« on: March 16, 2014, 03:32:34 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 03:41:43 PM »
Lets see. Hasn't the US supported "self determination" around the globe for quite awhile?

Didn't the USSR breakup? Didn't Yugoslavia break up? Didn't Czech split with Slovakia?

Aren't nationalist breakups being sought in Canada, Scotland, Spain, etc.?

Has the US objected to any of the above?
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 03:45:59 PM »
Lets see. Hasn't the US supported "self determination" around the globe for quite awhile?

Didn't the USSR breakup? Didn't Yugoslavia break up? Didn't Czech split with Slovakia?

Aren't nationalist breakups being sought in Canada, Scotland, Spain, etc.?

Has the US objected to any of the above?

I rather doubt this was a free, voluntary vote

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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 04:19:16 PM »
I rather doubt this was a free, voluntary vote
The census of 2001 has ethnic Russians at 58.5% of the population of Crimea, so it is reasonable to assume they would opt to align with Russia.

So assuming the referendum is a reasonably fair election, why should we object?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 05:25:06 PM »
The census of 2001 has ethnic Russians at 58.5% of the population of Crimea, so it is reasonable to assume they would opt to align with Russia.

So assuming the referendum is a reasonably fair election, why should we object?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

That's an assumption big enough to drive this through:




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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 05:34:24 PM »
Time for the Mexicans in the Southwest to vote their preferences.


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