Karzai says Afghanistan doesn't need US troops

[Rapunzel]

[kevindavis]

Then we should leave... Having said that is it me that Obama wanted us to lose this war.. Even though in 08 it was called a good war..

[Oceander]

Just fine with me.  US troops don't need Afghanistan either.  And rather than some quixotic exercise in nation building, the next time we need to go after someone in Afghanistan, we just go in fast and furious, with overwhelming force, trash what we have to trash, kill whom needs killing, and be done with it.

[Howie66]

I think that Karzai is on to something. Rather than propping him up and keeping his useless hide in power, we should immediately pull all of our troops out of Afghanistan.

At the same time, let us shift our resources to focus on Washington, D.C. where there is a real demand for Regime Change.

Git some!

[Chieftain]

Just fine with me.  US troops don't need Afghanistan either.  And rather than some quixotic exercise in nation building, the next time we need to go after someone in Afghanistan, we just go in fast and furious, with overwhelming force, trash what we have to trash, kill whom needs killing, and be done with it.

yep.  Just what God made aircraft carrier battle groups for, at least in the interim. 

What we need is a good orbital bombardment system of some sort in geosynchronous orbit over Afghanistan/Pakistan/Waziristan/etc prepared to pound selected targets down into bedrock.  The whole area is geologically unstable anyway, and since most of them live in 6th century accommodations in the first place, their trip to the frackin' stone age will be a short one.

KEWs accelerated straight down from hi geo orbit would hit like a frickin' meteor and would solve any worries about terrorism in the immediate area permanently.  If you can't get radical Islam out of an area, then you remove that area out of the country....

 

[alicewonders]

Just fine with me.  US troops don't need Afghanistan either.  And rather than some quixotic exercise in nation building, the next time we need to go after someone in Afghanistan, we just go in fast and furious, with overwhelming force, trash what we have to trash, kill whom needs killing, and be done with it.

I agree with you.  Get in, win, and get out!  The same for all these other hell-holes we are in.
 

[Howie66]

yep.  Just what God made aircraft carrier battle groups for, at least in the interim. 

What we need is a good orbital bombardment system of some sort in geosynchronous orbit over Afghanistan/Pakistan/Waziristan/etc prepared to pound selected targets down into bedrock.  The whole area is geologically unstable anyway, and since most of them live in 6th century accommodations in the first place, their trip to the frackin' stone age will be a short one.

KEWs accelerated straight down from hi geo orbit would hit like a frickin' meteor and would solve any worries about terrorism in the immediate area permanently.  If you can't get radical Islam out of an area, then you remove that area out of the country....

 

[EC]

yep.  Just what God made aircraft carrier battle groups for, at least in the interim. 

What we need is a good orbital bombardment system of some sort in geosynchronous orbit over Afghanistan/Pakistan/Waziristan/etc prepared to pound selected targets down into bedrock.  The whole area is geologically unstable anyway, and since most of them live in 6th century accommodations in the first place, their trip to the frackin' stone age will be a short one.

KEWs accelerated straight down from hi geo orbit would hit like a frickin' meteor and would solve any worries about terrorism in the immediate area permanently.  If you can't get radical Islam out of an area, then you remove that area out of the country....

 

KEWs would be a useful addition and one heck of a force multiplier. They are not even banned under international law. Since they are both a sensible and logical option (though a little bit excessive at times in terms of results) the only program that could park them in orbit and maintain them (you want flexibility, you have to be able to refuel them, at least until the mythical ion drive gets the kinks worked out of it) had to be shut down.

Personally, I go for a much older technique. 4 teams, 4 hours, threat removed. Terrorists only respond to one thing. Terror. Use it. Screw the RoE that hampers effectiveness - you take them out, bury them deep and never refer to them again. To look at the Afghanistan RoE for a second - no night attacks are permitted. That is so bleep stupid it's like the brass want dead soldiers. You use ever single advantage you have. Technical, geographical and psychological. The bleep hate the dark.