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Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« on: March 15, 2014, 07:06:36 PM »
http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Levin-Jolly-GOP-leadership/2014/03/13/id/559460#ixzz2w4bfXqz6

Republican Party leadership is celebrating this week's special election win by Florida Republican David Jolly, which kept the House seat in GOP hands and helped make a point that Obamacare is a key election issue in the fall.

But radio talk show host Mark Levin says party leadership is hypocritical. Prior to his unexpected win, party leaders were not so complimentary of Jolly in a story published by Politico last Friday, four days before polls opened.

National party officials thought Jolly was going to lose, so they went to Politico "and they dump all over this guy," Levin said Thursday on Fox News Channel's "Your World with Neil Cavuto."

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The Politico story talked about how GOP officials tried to get three other candidates to run for the seat left open by the death of Rep. Bill Young. Unnamed sources said Jolly was critical of one of the ads run against his Democratic opponent Alex Sink when Jolly had little money of his own. They also accused him of running a disjointed campaign akin to the Keystone Kops.

"They expected him to lose, and so they had their whole positioning ready to go that this was just another Todd Akin, a conservative kook," Levin said, referring to the Republican Senate candidate who lost a race in Missouri in 2012.

But Levin's radio listeners from Florida's 13th district had told him Jolly, a first-time candidate, beat the better-known and well-financed Sink because conservative groups turned out the vote at the grassroots level, he said. Obamacare was the key issue in the race, followed by amnesty for illegal immigrants, he told Cavuto.

"This guy never ran for public office before. They didn't want him. They did everything they could to stop him in the primary. Then they trashed the hell out of him when their polls showed him to be a few points behind," Levin said.

"The point is this: If we don't get new Republican leadership in Washington, clean out these consultants, clean out these Republican institutions, and put in some fresh people, new people, solid people who are really concerned about the country, really concerned about winning, this is the sort of sleazy crap that's going to go on."

Levin says he doesn't know whether Jolly will end up being a congressman he likes, but he wants the truth told about how he had to fight party leaders to get elected.

"It was assumed that everybody got behind this guy, the Republican establishment got behind this guy," Levin said. "I hope Mr. Jolly understands who his friends are and who his friends weren't."

Politico itself noticed the rift, running a story Thursday titled, "Why Republicans turn on their own."

Writer Alex Isenstadt noted that former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford had received similar icy attention from the party as it pulled out of his congressional special election in May last year after it was revealed his ex-wife accused him of trespassing.

Having lost the last two presidential elections, Republicans are more willing to adopt a get-tough approach, Isenstadt writes.

"Often under assault from outside-the-Beltway conservatives, establishment GOP figures are searching out new ways to exert influence over unruly candidates," he writes. "Cross them, and there’s a good chance the candidate won’t like what results."

Jolly himself is steering clear of getting involved in the dispute. When Politico called his cell phone for comment, he hung up. He failed to return a text message sent later.

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This is utter BS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/03/12/how-republican-groups-found-their-mojo-in-floridas-special-election/

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"The Florida CD-13 special was an important test market and there was unprecedented cooperation among outside groups," said Steven Law, CEO of American Crossroads, a conservative group that spent about $500,000 to help Jolly. "We intend to keep refining these lessons as we prepare for the fall elections."
Crossroads embarked on a coordinated effort in January with American Action Network and YG Network. The three groups combined to spend more than $1 million on the race. But they weren't even the heaviest hitters. The National Republican Congressional Committee spent more than $2 million and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce chipped in more than a $1 million of its own money. Taken together, GOP groups outspent Democratic groups by about $1.25 million.


Karl Rove coordinated the push polls and advertisement. I've read the advertisements for Jolly ran for hours after the polls closed.  the RNC and NRCC took nothing to chance and invested heavily in this race.  The RNC ran the election day GOTV using its new new “precinct organizing
structure and a suite of data driven tools” programs .  https://www.gop.com/news/rnc-statement-on-the-special-election-in-floridas-13th-congressional-district/ 

Why is Levin trying to sow discord by making this easily disproved and laughable claim? 

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 07:24:35 PM »
Because that's what Mark Levin does.  He hates McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner, and he, like Rush, make their money when they can stir the pot.  Since everybody in the GOP hates Obama, he's got to foster a major rift in the GOP.

Rush does the same thing.  It's good for ratings.
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 07:36:37 PM »
snip...First it happened to Mark Sanford.

Running in a high-profile special congressional election, the former South Carolina governor was blindsided by news that the National Republican Congressional Committee had decided to abandon his candidacy just days before voters cast their ballots.
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Last week, it was Florida GOP candidate David Jolly’s turn. National GOP operatives provided to POLITICO a detailed account of how the former lobbyist was waging a chaotic, chronically undisciplined campaign for a St. Petersburg-area congressional seat.

Both candidates would hold on to win, exploiting a political environment that’s tilted decidedly in the Republican Party’s favor. But the victories were bittersweet. Sanford and Jolly would be making the trek to Washington after having been pilloried by anonymous party operatives who, they thought, were on their side...


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/why-republicans-turn-on-their-own-104639.html#ixzz2w4s2aNqK
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 07:45:16 PM »
Because that's what Mark Levin does.  He hates McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner, and he, like Rush, make their money when they can stir the pot.  Since everybody in the GOP hates Obama, he's got to foster a major rift in the GOP.

Rush does the same thing.  It's good for ratings.
Good for ratings = good for bank accounts. They have a niche market, plain and simple.

I have switched my listening time mainly to Fox Business, where I get information without drama.

Anybody and everybody can be a journalist. Just make a loud noise. Many will repeat it without any scepticism.

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 07:56:20 PM »
Because that's what Mark Levin does.  He hates McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner, and he, like Rush, make their money when they can stir the pot.  Since everybody in the GOP hates Obama, he's got to foster a major rift in the GOP.

Rush does the same thing.  It's good for ratings.

Right.......... /sarc........... Levin planted the story a week ago Friday totally trashing Jolly ......... sheesh  follow the breadcrumbs for a change.
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 08:03:42 PM »
Because that's what Mark Levin does.  He hates McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner, and he, like Rush, make their money when they can stir the pot.  Since everybody in the GOP hates Obama, he's got to foster a major rift in the GOP.

Rush does the same thing.  It's good for ratings.

Except Mark Levin has actually followed up on his words with lawsuits.

Its not all about the ratings.  Rush yapping about his books nonstop is about his ratings.  Its gotten to the point I can't stand to listen to his nonstop commercial endorsements...


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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 08:14:01 PM »
Except Mark Levin has actually followed up on his words with lawsuits.

Its not all about the ratings.  Rush yapping about his books nonstop is about his ratings.  Its gotten to the point I can't stand to listen to his nonstop commercial endorsements...


You're correct Chief....... for instance the EPA

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-explains-landmark-lawsuit-with-epa-to-get-emails-from-lisa-jackson-aka-richard-windsor/


Mark Levin explains Landmark lawsuit with EPA to get secret emails from Lisa Jackson aka Richard Windsor
Posted on Feb 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM in Politics | 38 Comments
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Back in October of last year Landmark Legal, Mark Levin’s law group, sued the EPA for failing to cooperate with a FOIA request for senior officials emails, especially that of Lisa Jackson and her secret email account with the alias Richard Windsor. After dragging their feet through this lawsuit, the EPA has finally said in the few hours that they would only cooperate and provide what Landmark has a right to and nothing more. In other words, no secret emails.

But Levin says that’s not going to work and Landmark will get these emails. He explains this isn’t the first time they’ve been around this block. But even more than that, he says the EPA should not be hiding anything from the American people.

Levin explains the full case below:

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 08:15:24 PM »
http://spectator.org/articles/39896/mark-levin-readies-lawsuit-slaughter-rule



Breaking News
Mark Levin Readies Lawsuit on Slaughter Rule

Liberty at risk, says talk show host, as he prepares suit against Obama, Holder: "Deem and pass" or "Demon Pass"?

By Jeffrey Lord – 3.18.10
Not so fast.

Democrats poised to use the so-called "deem and pass" strategy to force through a health care bill will have to deal with Mark Levin first.

Levin, known to his fans as one of the most popular talk show hosts in the country, is also both a legal scholar and longtime president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, a nonprofit, public interest law firm A former chief of staff to Reagan Attorney General Edwin Meese III, Levin is the author of two New York Times bestselling books on the Constitution and the judiciary, the last, Liberty and Tyranny, at number one for a dozen weeks.

The lawsuit will name President Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and "other relevant cabinet members" as defendants. Those cabinet members are Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

Levin's goal? To stop the government from "instituting this unconstitutional contrivance."

Said Levin:

    Landmark has already prepared a lawsuit that will be filed in federal court the moment the House acts. Such a brazen violation of the core functions of Congress simply cannot be ignored. Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution is clear respecting the manner in which a bill becomes law. Members are required to vote on this bill, not claim they did when they didn't. The Speaker of the House and her lieutenants are temporary custodians of congressional authority. They are not empowered to do permanent violence to our Constitution
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The "Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief" begins by noting that "Landmark's employees receive healthcare through an employer healthcare plan sponsored and contributed to by Landmark."

In a move that would be hilarious if in fact it weren't so serious, Levin lists the specific section of the U.S. Constitution ("The Bicameralism and Presentment Clause of the Constitution of the United States") and cites the fact that it "mandates that 'Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it becomes a Law, be presented to the President of the United States.…'"

The suit cites the source precisely as "U.S. Const. art. I, § 7, cl. 2." Which is to say, Levin is compelled to point out to the President of the United States and the Attorney General of the United States what every American school child learns in those little pamphlets with catchy titles like "How a Bill Becomes a Law." To wit: Both the House and the Senate must pass the bill before it can be signed into law by the president.

Levin goes go with this cite: "Article I, section 7, clause 2 further provides: 'But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively.'"

The lawsuit goes on, saying:

    In or about March 2010, the Rules Committee of the House proposed a rule to the full House establishing the terms and conditions pursuant to which certain legislation would be considered by the House (the "Rule" or "Slaughter Rule"). The Rule provided that, upon adoption by the House on a vote of the yeas and nays of one bill (the "Reconciliation Bill"), an entirely different bill, H.R. 3590 (the "Senate Bill") would be "deemed approved" by the House.

If Nancy Pelosi twists enough arms to get this "passed" the lawsuit, in decidedly legal language as dry as it is un-Levin-like, says:

    In or about March 2010, the House approved the Reconciliation Bill. The House has never voted on the Senate Bill. The President has stated his intention to sign into law the Senate Bill upon presentment to him.

Don't let the dryness of this language fool you. Plainly stated, Levin is saying bluntly that a piece of major legislation, legislation that could reduce a huge chunk of the American economy to economic chaos, is being "passed" into law with only one House of Congress, the U.S. Senate, approving. And that the President of the United States intends to affix his signature, in a deliberate violation of the Constitution, to this "Senate Bill upon presentment to him."

Levin accuses Obama and Holder of intending to deprive Americans of their Fifth Amendment guarantee to "life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." He adds that, "Under color of law, the Defendants intend to collect taxes, remove and replace insurance benefits, and re-write health insurance contracts affecting Plaintiffs and Landmark's employees."

In addition, the suit says things that used to come out of old political novels with titles like Seven Days in May, a 1960s potboiler about a proposed military coup to take over the U.S. government. But this is no novel, and Levin is precise: "Two branches of the United States Government have and are presently intending to transgress the requirements of the U.S. Constitution, rendering the liberty of United States citizens at stake."

Say that again: "Rendering the liberty of United States citizens at stake."

"Under color of law," it continues, "the Defendants intend to collect taxes, remove and replace insurance benefits, and re-write health insurance contracts affecting Plaintiffs and Landmark's employees."

This is a stunning document, all the more so because Levin is both seriously credible on matters constitutional -- and there is a dawning recognition on the part of the American people just how serious the assault on their liberties is in fact.

Says the suit: "The Constitutionally protected liberty interests of the American public are at risk."

In short, this lawsuit means that Mark Levin has just opened round two in the furious struggle the American people are making to hold onto to their constitutional rights.

Will the suit be filed? Will the bill make it through on this "deem and pass" charade? (Or is that "demon pass"?)

Still too soon to say.

But if it does, Mark Levin is ready.

And it is safe to say, he will without doubt find a lot of Americans cheering him on.
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2014, 08:19:24 PM »
and....... BTW

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2014, 08:22:24 PM »
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2014, 08:24:07 PM »
and....... BTW

Rush Limbaugh sits as an unpaid member of its advisory board

Conservatives are in it for the money. The GOP is more patriotic and a better choice.  :silly:

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2014, 08:28:52 PM »
Conservatives are in it for the money. The GOP is more patriotic and a better choice.  :silly:

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2014, 08:33:14 PM »
Filing lawsuits is what a lawyer does.  Which one of those lawsuits you listed have resulted in anything? 
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2014, 08:59:22 PM »
Filing lawsuits is what a lawyer does.  Which one of those lawsuits you listed have resulted in anything?


Actually the EPA case is before SCOTUS right now...

http://www.landmarklegal.org/DesktopDefault.aspx

they have had others in SCOTUS and won........ how about you actually so some research on your own...
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2014, 09:28:58 PM »
Right.......... /sarc........... Levin planted the story a week ago Friday totally trashing Jolly ......... sheesh  follow the breadcrumbs for a change.


LOL!!  Talk about being more than a day late and more than a few dollars short... 

This whole mess was discussed here at length 3 days ago, with the actual source material present in the threads.

And I guess it must be too difficult of a concept for some to understand that both aspects can be true:

1.  Yes, elements of the establishment GOP leaked to Politico 4 days before the Special Election.
a.  Politico story from Friday 3/7 that is being referenced: National GOP turns on Florida candidate
b.  MUST LISTEN: Mark Levin tells the story behind the story on David Jolly’s Florida race
2. Yes, Karl Rove's Crossroads organization and the RNCC contributed heavily to the advertising that Jolly needed to win the election.  Without Rove's contributions it is likely that Alex Sink would have been sworn in on Thursday, not David Jolly.  (And unless I see evidence to the contrary, I believe that Rove had clean hands in the whole mess of leaking to Politico for that 3/7 story.)

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
Some people walk the walk, others like to talk.

Thanks for posting those Rap.  The reputation of Landmark Legal Foundation is known far and wide, especially within conservative and patriotic circles.  They are tireless laborers fighting to protect the Constitution and this nation.

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2014, 09:43:39 PM »
LOL!!  Talk about being more than a day late and more than a few dollars short... 

This whole mess was discussed here at length 3 days ago, with the actual source material present in the threads.

Gosh I'm sorry I missed it.  Could you provide a link please?
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2014, 10:00:10 PM »
Gosh I'm sorry I missed it.  Could you provide a link please?

Try Google.

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2014, 10:05:36 PM »
Gosh I'm sorry I missed it.  Could you provide a link please?


Here they are:
- David Jolly Won Despite DC GOP Betrayal
- GOP, Beware Of Tuesday's Victory By Karl Rove

Throwing in the second one because I believe they are related, and some of the posts tie the two together.  (Now don't say that I've never been nice to you!!  lol   :silly:)

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2014, 10:06:27 PM »
Try Google.

Why do you ask others to do your homework for you? It really isn't that hard.

I didn't mind Howie, sometimes we need to help out the "moderates" in the party!!    :beer:

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2014, 10:09:44 PM »
Conservatives are in it for the money. The GOP is more patriotic and a better choice.  :silly:

Just whom in the GOP are you referring to as being "more patriotic and a better choice"? Please name names. I am truly curious.
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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2014, 10:11:26 PM »
Just whom in the GOP are you referring to as being "more patriotic and a better choice"? Please name names. I am truly curious.

It was a joke, as in sarcasm. Sorry for misleading.

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 10:12:37 PM »
I didn't mind Howie, sometimes we need to help out the "moderates" in the party!!    :beer:

"Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a life time"
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders (Note: Mattis did NOT say "BLEEP". He threw the F Bomb)

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 10:13:47 PM »
It was a joke, as in sarcasm. Sorry for misleading.

Okie dokie! My bad!  :beer:
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders (Note: Mattis did NOT say "BLEEP". He threw the F Bomb)

I didn't enlist in the Corps just to watch my country become a Third World Communist Shit-hole. Don't know anyone who did.

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Re: Mark Levin: GOP Establishment 'Dumped All Over' Jolly
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 10:15:38 PM »
Here they are:
- David Jolly Won Despite DC GOP Betrayal
- GOP, Beware Of Tuesday's Victory By Karl Rove

Throwing in the second one because I believe they are related, and some of the posts tie the two together.  (Now don't say that I've never been nice to you!!  lol   :silly:)


Thank you for the link.  (Now don't say that I've never been nice to you either.) :beer:
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