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Offline Rapunzel

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« on: March 15, 2014, 06:36:07 PM »

Offline Atomic Cow

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 06:38:12 PM »
Everyone knows this is coming.
"...And these atomic bombs which science burst upon the world that night were strange, even to the men who used them."  H. G. Wells, The World Set Free, 1914

"The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections." -Lord Acton

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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 06:54:55 PM »
Obama helped overthrow Libya with American military force, which was a wholly illegal act, under the amorphous, vague, and illdefined statement that the U.S. has "a duty to protect". Supposedly we had a 'duty to protect' innocent civilians, even though Obama's actions resulted in the murders and deaths of tens of thousands of 'innocent civilians'.
 
So, if Obama can claim a 'duty to protect' and bomb and overthrow a country which posed no direct or indirect threat to America or anyone else, why can't Putin claim the same 'duty to protect' ethnic Russians in Ukraine?
 
Why is it OK when Obama does it, and not OK when Putin does the exact same thing?
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 07:57:36 PM »
Everyone knows this is coming.

Putin has been telegraphing this for several years.  He's going to do it because he can, and because there is nothing Obama or NATO or the G-8 are going to do about it.

This is what raw power looks like.  This is what we used to keep in check by matching them eye to eye and toe to toe.  These days the Pentagon is more concerned about how to get transvestites serving on submarines and carriers, and getting homosexual "partners" spousal benefits.  Don't think for a moment any of that is lost on Putin, or the Iranians, Syrians, Norks, Hezbollah, or any other petty dictator you can name.

Wait till someone decides they can use a nuclear weapon with impunity, and no fear of retribution from the US.


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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 08:15:45 PM »
Obama/Clinton supported, cheered, and aided the overthrow of Mubarak in favor of the White House's favorite group the Muslim Brotherhood. Which was followed by elections.
 
If America can support aid and cheer the overthrow of foreign sovereign government's in favor of people Obama considers to be 'more worthy' of leadership, why can't other nations do the same thing?
 
I am still confused about what Putin is now doing, that Obama/Clinton have not already done.
 
Since Obama, America has overthrown and destabilized governments in countries all over the world. Not to mention that we violate multiple nations sovereign air space 'at will' with drones to kill people on Obama's 'kill list', with no oversight, warning, or due process.
 
All of this reminds me of the old anti-pot commericial, "I learned it from you DAD! I learned it from watching you!" 
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.


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