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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2014, 06:52:24 PM »
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The U.S. government announced Friday that it is relinquishing it's hold on a key Internet oversight role.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the Commerce Department announced the decision to transition out of managing domain names and addresses for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). The move is planned for September 2015, when the current contract runs out, the Journal added.

According to the Journal, the move is considered a response to international backlash that the U.S. faced as a result of the National Security Agency spying scandal. The Washington Post adds that the move is likely to please those critics, but business leaders could be concerned. ...
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 04:39:32 AM »
I can't believe this news slid out on the Friday news dump, it is what we should be paying attention to.
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When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 08:45:42 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 12:16:34 PM »
Welcome Comrades to New Era for Peoples Web!




U.S. officials announced plans Friday to relinquish federal government control over the administration of the Internet, a move that pleased international critics but alarmed some business leaders and others who rely on the smooth functioning of the Web.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/us-to-relinquish-remaining-control-over-the-internet/2014/03/14/0c7472d0-abb5-11e3-adbc-888c8010c799_story.html


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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 12:31:59 PM »
They are doing this because 'the world', so to speak, is very much committed to censorship of the internet. Russia, China, and the Muslim countries have very strict censorship rules on what people can access, and say, and do, on the internet, accompanied by very harsh and sever punishments for anyone caught getting around the rules.
 
The irony is the GOPe/Democrat oligarchy in America feel the same way. McConnell, McCain, Graham, et al, would love to be able to censor the internet, as would Ried, Pelosi, Obama, et al. This is something which both parties power establishment agree. Sites like FR, and GOPBR, and many others, would be shut down immediately for some public pretense, whatever form it may take. For example, "telling lies", or "fomenting violence", etc.
 
This move gives the power establishment (Pubs and Dems) the ability to control criticism against them, while maintaining cover under the guise of ICANN "Hey! Its not us! It is them (ICANN) doing it.
 
This way the established power structures will be able to influence who and what is available on the internet without ever getting their hands dirty. That is why this is being pushed by both establishment power people in America. It is just another in very many steps in America toward full authoritarianism. It is, just another brick in the wall.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 12:39:35 PM »
They are doing this because 'the world', so to speak, is very much committed to censorship of the internet. Russia, China, and the Muslim countries have very strict censorship rules on what people can access, and say, and do, on the internet, accompanied by very harsh and sever punishments for anyone caught getting around the rules.
 
The irony is the GOPe/Democrat oligarchy in America feel the same way. McConnell, McCain, Graham, et al, would love to be able to censor the internet, as would Ried, Pelosi, Obama, et al. This is something which both parties power establishment agree. Sites like FR, and GOPBR, and many others, would be shut down immediately for some public pretense, whatever form it may take. For example, "telling lies", or "fomenting violence", etc.
 
This move gives the power establishment (Pubs and Dems) the ability to control criticism against them, while maintaining cover under the guise of ICANN "Hey! Its not us! It is them (ICANN) doing it.
 
This way the established power structures will be able to influence who and what is available on the internet without ever getting their hands dirty. That is why this is being pushed by both establishment power people in America. It is just another in very many steps in America toward full authoritarianism. It is, just another brick in the wall.

And that wall gets broader and higher each day, unabated.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 12:42:15 PM »
I think people owe apologies to all the people in the 1990's that spoke of this happening via the 'new world order' and were called right wing conspiracy kooks that wore tin-foil hats and saw black helos.

Only thing is: that now that it is real, it is surreal. like everything else with Obama, people are stunned and what can anybody do about it?

Apparently Kerry signed a gun treaty with the UN and the usual -HE CAN'T DO that without the states voting- people piped in. Well guess what, they did it anyway and nobody is going to stop them or this UN internet take-over of everything,because Obama is half black and historic and Lurch said it is so.

This is exactly why I don't buy the, do not stop or impeach Obama arguments. We may not have an America as we know it to re elect someone else.

"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2014, 12:46:55 PM »
I think people owe apologies to all the people in the 1990's that spoke of this happening via the 'new world order' and were called right wing conspiracy kooks that wore tin-foil hats and saw black helos.

Only thing is: that now that it is real, it is surreal. like everything else with Obama, people are stunned and what can anybody do about it?

Apparently Kerry signed a gun treaty with the UN and the usual -HE CAN'T DO that without the states voting- people piped in. Well guess what, they did it anyway and nobody is going to stop them or this UN internet take-over of everything,because Obama is half black and historic and Lurch said it is so.

This is exactly why I don't buy the, do not stop or impeach Obama arguments. We may not have an America as we know it to re elect someone else.

Gazoo, people have been warning about this for a longer time than the '90s.  And of course, they continue to be discredited as "kooks" from virtually all parts of the political spectrum.  It always brings to mind that old Ayn Rand quote: "You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2014, 12:47:03 PM »
this is something that's been a long time coming.

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2014, 12:53:43 PM »
Well, we all know that everything that Obama comes in contact with turns to sh*t. Why would the interweb be any different?
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2014, 12:56:09 PM »
I think people owe apologies to all the people in the 1990's that spoke of this happening via the 'new world order' and were called right wing conspiracy kooks that wore tin-foil hats and saw black helos.

Only thing is: that now that it is real, it is surreal. like everything else with Obama, people are stunned and what can anybody do about it?

Apparently Kerry signed a gun treaty with the UN and the usual -HE CAN'T DO that without the states voting- people piped in. Well guess what, they did it anyway and nobody is going to stop them or this UN internet take-over of everything,because Obama is half black and historic and Lurch said it is so.

This is exactly why I don't buy the, do not stop or impeach Obama arguments. We may not have an America as we know it to re elect someone else.

I keep having this dream of waking up to hear reports that Obama and his Regime have been deposed by our military in order to restore Constitution control of our country.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2014, 12:57:03 PM »
Gazoo, people have been warning about this for a longer time than the '90s.  And of course, they continue to be discredited as "kooks" from virtually all parts of the political spectrum.  It always brings to mind that old Ayn Rand quote: "You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

Yeah, but in the 80's all those that started a "NWO, black helicopters are coming to take you away at the governments order," in a prodigy or AOL chat room, were called bigger kooks than the ones in the 90's. :laugh:

BTW back then wtf were those chat rooms exact meaning- that were titled, "Friends of Bill"? And WHY was it when the AOL lady said "You've got mail' you somehow got so damned excited and RAN to the other side of your house to find that FREE 6400 hours AOL CD to start another account?  ^-^ :laugh: :silly:
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2014, 01:12:07 PM »
I keep having this dream of waking up to hear reports that Obama and his Regime have been deposed by our military in order to restore Constitution control of our country.

I wish I had that dream.
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When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2014, 01:16:26 PM »
I wish I had that dream.

Have at it. I don't mind sharing!  :beer:
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2014, 01:16:43 PM »
Well, we all know that everything that Obama comes in contact with turns to sh*t. Why would the interweb be any different?

Yes. It is the opposite 'Midas touch'. Instead of turning to gold, everything he touches turns to sh*t, and I am not convinced that it is 'accidental'.
 
I've been saying this for a while, and still believe, that the next thing on Obama's 'destroy America' program is automobiles. It is only logical. If you want to cripple America, what better way is there than to hinder, limit, or even curtail, personal transportation. I know personally that without my car, I would not be able to keep my job. I work where there is no public transportation available. However, I do not think this will stop Obama and his crew.
 
Obama and his gang are going to come up with some 'law' that says a car that is 'X' number of years old, or one that does not have this feature or device or that feature or device, is going to be 'illegal'.
 
I do not have the specifics on what form it will take, but our automobiles are next on the chopping block in his effort to 'fundementally transform' America.
 
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What have we lost so far?
There is no longer in America any pretense of a 'private' business. All businesses small or large are now under the direct control of the courts and by extension the government.
 
We no longer have 'private' healthcare. And now they want doctors to question your children about what you do at home and how many guns you have.
 
We no longer own 'our' land or have 'private' land. All land is controlled, and therefore owned by the EPA and the government. Land owners are merely 'custodians' of land for the government, and can only do anything on the government's land that the government approves and allows. If a land owner does something on so called 'private' land that the government does not approve, the government will take their land back and evict the current tenant. If the tenant does not pay the 'rent' or property tax as it is called, the government will evict the tenant and take their land back. Private land or property ownership no longer exists in America. Rather we are 'joint owners' along with the EPA and the government.
 
These are a few examples out of hundreds. But clearly America is not America anymore. Until and unless we oust the current government's stanglehold on the population of America, I believe we are on track to a full authoritarian government like the one in Venezuela, Cuba, and Russia, where the government de-facto owns everything and everyone, and we are all merely surfs serving at the whim of the power establishment in D.C.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2014, 01:21:00 PM »

Yes. It is the opposite 'Midas touch'. Instead of turning to gold, everything he touches turns to sh*t, and I am not convinced that it is 'accidental'.
 
I've been saying this for a while, and still believe, that the next thing on Obama's 'destroy America' program is automobiles. It is only logical. If you want to cripple America, what better way is there than to hinder, limit, or even curtail, personal transportation. I know personally that without my car, I would not be able to keep my job. I work where there is no public transportation available. However, I do not think this will stop Obama and his crew.
 
Obama and his gang are going to come up with some 'law' that says a car that is 'X' number of years old, or one that does not have this feature or device or that feature or device, is going to be 'illegal'.
 
I do not have the specifics on what form it will take, but our automobiles are next on the chopping block in his effort to 'fundementally transform' America.
 
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What have we lost so far?
There is no longer in America any pretense of a 'private' business. All businesses small or large are now under the direct control of the courts and by extension the government.
 
We no longer have 'private' healthcare. And now they want doctors to question your children about what you do at home and how many guns you have.
 
We no longer own 'our' land or have 'private' land. All land is controlled, and therefore owned by the EPA and the government. Land owners are merely 'custodians' of land for the government, and can only do anything on the government's land that the government approves and allows. If a land owner does something on so called 'private' land that the government does not approve, the government will take their land back and evict the current tenant. If the tenant does not pay the 'rent' or property tax as it is called, the government will evict the tenant and take their land back. Private land or property ownership no longer exists in America. Rather we are 'joint owners' along with the EPA and the government.
 
These are a few examples out of hundreds. But clearly America is not America anymore. Until and unless we oust the current government's stanglehold on the population of America, I believe we are on track to a full authoritarian government like the one in Venezuela, Cuba, and Russia, where the government de-facto owns everything and everyone, and we are all merely surfs serving at the whim of the power establishment in D.C.

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I didn't enlist in the Corps just to watch my country become a Third World Communist Shit-hole. Don't know anyone who did.

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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2014, 01:26:02 PM »

Yes. It is the opposite 'Midas touch'. Instead of turning to gold, everything he touches turns to sh*t, and I am not convinced that it is 'accidental'.
 
I've been saying this for a while, and still believe, that the next thing on Obama's 'destroy America' program is automobiles. It is only logical. If you want to cripple America, what better way is there than to hinder, limit, or even curtail, personal transportation. I know personally that without my car, I would not be able to keep my job. I work where there is no public transportation available. However, I do not think this will stop Obama and his crew.
 
Obama and his gang are going to come up with some 'law' that says a car that is 'X' number of years old, or one that does not have this feature or device or that feature or device, is going to be 'illegal'.
 
I do not have the specifics on what form it will take, but our automobiles are next on the chopping block in his effort to 'fundementally transform' America.
 
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What have we lost so far?
There is no longer in America any pretense of a 'private' business. All businesses small or large are now under the direct control of the courts and by extension the government.
 
We no longer have 'private' healthcare. And now they want doctors to question your children about what you do at home and how many guns you have.
 
We no longer own 'our' land or have 'private' land. All land is controlled, and therefore owned by the EPA and the government. Land owners are merely 'custodians' of land for the government, and can only do anything on the government's land that the government approves and allows. If a land owner does something on so called 'private' land that the government does not approve, the government will take their land back and evict the current tenant. If the tenant does not pay the 'rent' or property tax as it is called, the government will evict the tenant and take their land back. Private land or property ownership no longer exists in America. Rather we are 'joint owners' along with the EPA and the government.
 
These are a few examples out of hundreds. But clearly America is not America anymore. Until and unless we oust the current government's stanglehold on the population of America, I believe we are on track to a full authoritarian government like the one in Venezuela, Cuba, and Russia, where the government de-facto owns everything and everyone, and we are all merely surfs serving at the whim of the power establishment in D.C.

Part one of your post.

He will try another clash for clunkers-vision 2.0. (SEE Hitler and VW's)

Part two of your post.

And people think it is somehow extreme to call Obama a communist?

"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2014, 01:28:37 PM »
with all due respect, there is still too much MWO/blackhat/tinfoil nonsense going on.

One comment was particularly striking:  that now sites like this one would be suppressed?  If anything this change will make it less likely that a site like this would be suppressed because the only government even remotely interested in suppressing this site would be the US government, which is reducing its control over the domain name system (which is all that's really involved here).

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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2014, 01:52:18 PM »
I hope you are right, but I doubt it. The fact that they offloaded 'responsibility' to an international committee, does not mean that the American government cannot influence or even control their 'decisions'. This is just the first step toward U.N. control over all aspects of the internet, just like Obama and the Dems are doing with gun control. It is all part of the same thing, IMO.
 
Again, I hope you are right and I am wrong. Nothing would make me happier.
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2014, 02:00:11 PM »
« Last Edit: March 15, 2014, 02:17:35 PM by Gazoo »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2014, 02:25:42 PM »
Ease down. The US has simply given up it's monopoly on domain name registration.

That's it. It's a none story that has been in the works since 2009.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 02:27:57 PM »
Ease down. The US has simply given up it's monopoly on domain name registration.

That's it. It's a none story that has been in the works since 2009.

Actually I think it's been in the works since at least 2006; and the give-away, if you will, is basically just having final say-so over what goes in the ultimate root file.  So basically just giving up a final veto on certain IP to domain name associations being put into the master file.

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 02:40:35 PM »




But it won't protect you from a global taxation.

What's next, internet global voting for Obama again? New world currency? The rainbow flag as the world flag?
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"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 02:51:46 PM »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.


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