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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 09:47:04 AM »
Yeah Grover! RIGHT!

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 10:39:30 AM »
That's a pretty good list.  Rand Paul has been very shrewd in talking about growing the Republican Party;  Cruz is more about kicking people out who aren't pure enough.
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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 11:20:00 AM »
Grover belongs on Sesame Street.

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 11:27:22 AM »
Christie's already alienated too many republicans, and now too many non-aligned voters, to win and Jeb Bush is so thoroughly hobbled by GWB's legacy and issues of dynasty that he'd never win.

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 11:28:44 AM »
That's a pretty good list.  Rand Paul has been very shrewd in talking about growing the Republican Party;  Cruz is more about kicking people out who aren't pure enough.

It is easy to grow the Republican party; just become more like the democrats. And, that is vaguely, though generally, what Paul is proposing in couched language.   However, the bigger the tent becomes, the more the true Conservatives will either stay home or depart.  Moreover, the true Conservatives are the ones who zealously work for the party in the precincts.  If they are not enthused, you have 2012 revisited.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 11:30:07 AM »
It is easy to grow the Republican party; just become more like the democrats. And, that is vaguely, though generally, what Paul is proposing in couched language.   However, the bigger the tent becomes, the more the true Conservatives will either stay home or depart.  Moreover, the true Conservatives are the ones who zealously work for the party in the precincts.  If they are not enthused, you have 2012 revisited.

demographics would disagree with you

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 11:34:00 AM »
It is easy to grow the Republican party; just become more like the democrats. And, that is vaguely, though generally, what Paul is proposing in couched language.   However, the bigger the tent becomes, the more the true Conservatives will either stay home or depart.  Moreover, the true Conservatives are the ones who zealously work for the party in the precincts.  If they are not enthused, you have 2012 revisited.

I completely disagree with you! The way to GROW the Republican party is to draw a CLEAR distinction between them and the Democrats by clearly stating, and adhering to,  the principles laid out in the Constitution!

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 11:56:33 AM »
I completely disagree with you! The way to GROW the Republican party is to draw a CLEAR distinction between them and the Democrats by clearly stating, and adhering to,  the principles laid out in the Constitution!

Therein lies the rub, brother. Seeing politician and principles in the same sentence is jarring and somewhat unbelievable.

Perry, Walker - yep. They walk the walk.

Cruz - yep. But I want him right where he is: kicking the "go along to get along" senators into actually doing things.

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 11:59:08 AM »
Therein lies the rub, brother. Seeing politician and principles in the same sentence is jarring and somewhat unbelievable.

Exactly! And it's time to change that!

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 12:25:42 PM »
I completely disagree with you! The way to GROW the Republican party is to draw a CLEAR distinction between them and the Democrats by clearly stating, and adhering to,  the principles laid out in the Constitution!

I wish that were true.  I am afraid our society has become increasingly addicted to entitlements.  Too many are making a living off of the government tit and their numbers are increasing.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 12:26:31 PM »
demographics would disagree with you

What demographics specifically are you referencing?

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 12:35:53 PM »
I like Rick Perry.....the one that isn't under the influence of painkillers that mess with his memory.   :laugh:

I love Rick Walker's accomplishments in Wisconsin.    At this point, my advice to him would be to get a taster. 
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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 01:25:22 PM »
The idea there is a big, untapped pool of very conservative voters to be tapped, if only the ideal true conservative candidate appears on the ballot is a wearisome trip into mythology.

Even if there were, they demand policies and positions which might push away 1 or 2, or more voters, for every one gained.

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 01:33:25 PM »
The idea there is a big, untapped pool of very conservative voters to be tapped, if only the ideal true conservative candidate appears on the ballot is a wearisome trip into mythology.

Even if there were, they demand policies and positions which might push away 1 or 2, or more voters, for every one gained.

There are plenty of folks around who would LOVE to have us believe that and are doing their dead level best to sell it but I'm not about to buy it! Not one bit!

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 01:38:50 PM »
I completely disagree with you! The way to GROW the Republican party is to draw a CLEAR distinction between them and the Democrats by clearly stating, and adhering to,  the principles laid out in the Constitution!

At this point it simply comes down to numbers (assuming that the GOP takes the tack that you suggest, and I agree with).  Are there still enough breathing, thinking, voting Americas that will respond to this message??  Or has the tide turned??  I don't know the answer to that.  But I do know this, we can't wait any longer -- the numbers are not going to improve over time.


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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 02:13:37 PM »
At this point it simply comes down to numbers (assuming that the GOP takes the tack that you suggest, and I agree with).  Are there still enough breathing, thinking, voting Americas that will respond to this message??  Or has the tide turned??  I don't know the answer to that.  But I do know this, we can't wait any longer -- the numbers are not going to improve over time.

There are tons of escapees from blue states moving to Texas and on the surface one would think that would lead to Texas turning more blue but it isn't! It is in fact rapidly  turning even more red. I'm convinced that can happen nationally as well if we nominate people who can properly lay out the case for FREEDOM!!

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 03:10:15 PM »
Therein lies the rub, brother. Seeing politician and principles in the same sentence is jarring and somewhat unbelievable.

Perry, Walker - yep. They walk the walk.

Cruz - yep. But I want him right where he is: kicking the "go along to get along" senators into actually doing things.


Perry bothers me in one regard... cronyism... he's strong constitutionally...  frankly I want to see and hear what they all say in debates.. but the RNC seems to be orchestrating things to be in charge of who is allowed to run and debate so at this point I'm not hopeful for 2016 unless we get rid of Reinse.

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 03:12:06 PM »
Oh and Grover is married to a Muslim and doing business with the MB...He should be working for Hillary and Huma...

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 03:49:39 PM »
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His list, which he told Business Insider in an approximately hour-long interview Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.
I could do without Christie and Bush. Otherwise, sounds okay to me.
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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2014, 06:14:25 PM »
What demographics specifically are you referencing?

so-called "true conservatives" are a shrinking minority.  anyone who pins her/his political future on only their support will be sorely disappointed, and out of a job.  Conversely, the numbers of groups of people that so-called "true conservatives" love to pillory are growing.  Those groups may be aligned with democrats now, but they are composed of thinking individuals and if the GOP were to approach them as such, and not avoid them or pretend that they don't matte, then some of them will start leaving the democrat plantation.

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2014, 06:19:26 PM »
I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery.  But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes:  If you bleep with me, I'll kill you all.

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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2014, 06:21:22 PM »
Oh and Grover is married to a Muslim and doing business with the MB...He should be working for Hillary and Huma...

I have a sneaking suspicion that he and Karl Rove already are in the employ of the Clinton Mafia and have been for quite some time.
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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2014, 06:47:46 PM »
I have a sneaking suspicion that he and Karl Rove already are in the employ of the Clinton Mafia and have been for quite some time.

Would not surprise me.  We know Democrat Unions are financing the so-called GOP PAC to destroy the Tea Party, we know McCain has taken money from Norquist as well as Soros for a very long time...... we know Rove is now trying to hide some of his PACS in order to encourage donations that are not linked as directly to him.......   I pretty much don't trust many of these people nowadays.

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Re: GROVER NORQUIST: Here Are The Only 6 Republicans Who Can Win In 2016
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2014, 06:58:04 PM »
There are tons of escapees from blue states moving to Texas and on the surface one would think that would lead to Texas turning more blue but it isn't! It is in fact rapidly  turning even more red. I'm convinced that can happen nationally as well if we nominate people who can properly lay out the case for FREEDOM!!

Texas is NOT turning more red.  Have you seen what's happened in Harris and Dallas counties lately?  They are both dominated by Democrats, as is San Antonio.  The large population centers are turning Democrat.  That is a direct result of the refugees from California and the Northeast.  Instead of turning Republican, they drag their liberal propensities with them.

That's why the migration to Texas from the coasts is not necessarily a good thing.
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