Author Topic: Flight MH 370 lost: Malaysian flight had 2 passengers using stolen passports  (Read 1214 times)

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two stolen passports used, both stolen in Thailand, and a plane that disappeared altogether on radar?  Terrorist bomb.  Perhaps no wreckage has yet been found because the bomb was powerful enough to shatter the aircraft high up in the air and disperse the wreckage over a very wide area?

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Before I jump too quickly on the 'this is proof of something', I wonder how many stolen passports are used in this part of SE Asia by people who may not otherwise be able to get them?  According to ABC, 1.1 Million Passports have been lost or stolen in the past few years. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131622&page=1  Someone is using a lot of these.

This could be simply a coincidence, like finding a stolen driver's license on an illegal in the SW at a car accident.

Or it could be something...

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Before I jump too quickly on the 'this is proof of something', I wonder how many stolen passports are used in this part of SE Asia by people who may not otherwise be able to get them?  According to ABC, 1.1 Million Passports have been lost or stolen in the past few years. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131622&page=1  Someone is using a lot of these.

This could be simply a coincidence, like finding a stolen driver's license on an illegal in the SW at a car accident.

Or it could be something...

it certainly could be just a coincidence.  'course, speculating on mere coincidence isn't nearly as much fun!

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Again, these are some of the most poorly trained pilots in the world who have more time flying the autopilot than the airplane.


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Again, these are some of the most poorly trained pilots in the world who have more time flying the autopilot than the airplane.



fair enough, but why did it drop off the radar so quickly?

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fair enough, but why did it drop off the radar so quickly?

That is the $64,000 question. Had it dove from 35,000 feet to the sea the radar would have tracked the plunge, it didn't - all we know is there was a 650 foot drop and then nothing afterward...  if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it usually is a duck.  And the oil slicks were reported as quite large. The expert former NTSB guy on CNN said once they get ships on the scene they will know quickly if the slicks are aviation fuel because fo the smell of the oil.

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fair enough, but why did it drop off the radar so quickly?

Who knows?  When seconds count in a cockpit emergency, these guys are only minutes behind the aircraft........


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The two oil slicks are reported as much as ten miles long

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Who knows?  When seconds count in a cockpit emergency, these guys are only minutes behind the aircraft........



ok, but pilot incompetence couldn't remove the plane's signature from radar

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ok, but pilot incompetence couldn't remove the plane's signature from radar

Exactly, Capatin Nash on Fox right now discussing this, said there is a constant signal being sent between the aircraft and home - he said whatever happened was sudden and catostrophic.


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They also just pointed out one reason passports go missing so often over there is they are used for human smuggling and they might have been smuggling two people into China that China would not otherwise allow into the country.


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Breaking, Freescale Semiconductor, a company based in Texas, confirms 20 of its employees -- 12 from Malaysia and 8 from China -- were passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines flight. No link yet.

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Exactly, Capatin Nash on Fox right now discussing this, said there is a constant signal being sent between the aircraft and home - he said whatever happened was sudden and catostrophic.

Yep. The IFF beacon. Self powered if something happens to onboard power and can not be switched off by any action taken in the cockpit in a commercial aircraft (military aircraft can switch it off - no sense in providing targeting information for free!).
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Yep. The IFF beacon. Self powered if something happens to onboard power and can not be switched off by any action taken in the cockpit in a commercial aircraft (military aircraft can switch it off - no sense in providing targeting information for free!).

Civilian aircraft do not carry IFF other than some old Soviet models which were built for rapid conversion to wartime use.

What they are taking about is a data link that modern aircraft use to send information (how much and what kind varies by airline) back to the airline's maintenance operations so not only can the airline's performance be measured, but if there is an inflight problem, maintenance can try to help the pilots solve it.

The data link suddenly cut out on MH370 and until that point, was showing no problems.  This is different than Air France 447 which was transmitting information showing a lot of issues before contact was lost.
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