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In this the US has much less freedom of action since Poland is a member of NATO and NATO members are obligated to come to each other's defense.  So Obama isn't leading from out front, he's merely restating the obvious.

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"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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Obama promises to defend Poland?  Oh God, they're F***ed, 
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And to think, tea party people so called radicals; are considered at fault in protocol for expressing what should happen next with this issue!

While Reid says sit tight and do nothing and Obama draws another red line at Poland. Yeah, that's the new Obama red-line, Poland. They can take the Ukraine, Georgia but if you go to Poland Obama will write another strongly worded letter.

Who speaks for the radical progressives anyway? Obama or Reid? What about the dem party schism of radicals taking over? Have the moderate democrats been silenced?


Poland isn't just another red line; NATO gets involved at that point.

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This whole thing is starting to read more and more like a WWII redux.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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This whole thing is starting to read more and more like a WWII redux.

it is, isn't it

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Obama promises to defend Poland?  Oh God, they're F***ed,

Yep...

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We have Russia moving all over Europe, the Balkans, and the M.E. We have China moving on Japan, Asia, and central Africa, and of course we have NK threatening SK.
 
Not looking too good.
 
We all know why. They want to move while Obama is Prez and America is at it's weakest point in many decades. Obama's 'peace and love' philosophy is going to get us killed.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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We have Russia moving all over Europe, the Balkans, and the M.E. We have China moving on Japan, Asia, and central Africa, and of course we have NK threatening SK.
 
Not looking too good.
 
We all know why. They want to move while Obama is Prez and America is at it's weakest point in many decades. Obama's 'peace and love' philosophy is going to get us killed.

exactly.

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It's Chamberlain all over again.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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It just keeps getting better.

Offline Rapunzel

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Interesting little tidbit re" Poland.

Earlier today I recommended a book "Disinformation" after watching an interview with General Pacepa this morning.  (I downloaded to Kindle)....... anyway started reading the first chapter and like the reviews said it  pulls you right in....... and by the third page it is talking about the only thing Russia has going for it isn't people - they are a declining population and actually had more people in the Cold War working to spread disinformation than they had people in their military - but what they have is oil and gas... lots of oil and gas.  Still no manyfacturing base........  and as we all know they ran pipelines through Ukraine to feed oil and gas to Europe and make them subservient.

However..... two things are currently at play.  a) we are fracking up a storm and no longer are in need of energy imports from Russia and b) POLAND has found pools of oil and gas and they, too, are fracking now...

If Poland is as successful as we've been this could neuter Russia and free up Europe from their dependence for their winter heating oil and natural gas currently coming from Russia.

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We have Russia moving all over Europe, the Balkans, and the M.E. We have China moving on Japan, Asia, and central Africa, and of course we have NK threatening SK.
 
Not looking too good.
 
We all know why. They want to move while Obama is Prez and America is at it's weakest point in many decades. Obama's 'peace and love' philosophy is going to get us killed.

Pretty much!

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The people of Poland should remember Ali Bama said: "you can keep your insurance," "the average person will save $2,500," "the Benghazi attacks were caused by a Youtube video," "there is no corruption in the IRS," and on, and on, and on  :nothappen:

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
George Washington

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin


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