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http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/03/obama-promises-to-defend-poland-against-russia-as-reid-urges-caution-about-action/

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Polish news site Thenews.pl is reporting that President Obama in a telephone call on Sunday to Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski “assured him ‘unequivocally as to Poland’s security, knowing that Poland is not only a neighbor of Ukraine but Russia as well.’

Speaking Monday after a meeting of Poland’s Nations Security Council – with Poland’s Defense Minister, Foreign Minister, Prime Minister and opposition party leaders in attendance - Komorowski informed the media that he had directed Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski to “request NATO consultations under Article 4 of the alliance’s founding treaty.”

Article 4 of the North Atlantic Treaty that was signed on April 4th 1949 and states that “The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened.” Poland, which shares a border with Russia and is a recent addition to NATO, is concerned that, while Ukraine is not a member of NATO so it is not party to the principle of mutual defense, the current aggressive posturing by Russia may be a precursor to more belligerent actions by Moscow. Komorowski also raised the case for actions being taken against Russia saying, “Poland should present the case for a very firm stance on sanctions, both political and economic.”

This report of  ”unequivocal” assurance by President Obama would appear at odds with his compatriot, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Reid urged caution caution in dealing with Russia in an interview today with Politico and that ”Congress should let the situation play out for “a while” before trying to impose any new sanctions on Russia.”

“The most important thing is for us – the United States – to make sure that we don’t go off without the European community,” Reid continued.

Europe has been thrown in to turmoil after the recent occupation of the Crimea by Russian troops after the Russian leaning Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich was ousted by protesters who have been seeking greater ties to the European Union.

The invasion of sovereign Ukrainian territory by Russian President Vladimir Putin has been roundly condemned by European leaders with many, including the United Kingdom voicing support for the new acting president, Olexandr Turchinov.

Pressure has been building in Washington DC for a response as the game of geopolitical brinksmanship has been ratcheted up. The Ukrainian defense ministry says its sovereign airspace was violated Sunday night by two Russian fighter jets and that it deployed an interceptor as a response to what it called ”provocative actions.”

President Obama made a statement on Friday evening regarding the invasion by Russian forces, however, it was roundly criticized by many commentators as being lackluster.

Russia’s Black Sea Fleet commander Alexander Vitko has announced a deadline of Tuesday 5.A.M Kiev time (Monday 10 P.M. EST)  for the surrender of all Ukrainian forces in the Crimea. Russia’s state controlled news agency Interfax reported the statement “f they do not surrender before 5 am tomorrow, a real assault will be started against units and divisions of the armed forces across Crimea.” However, Interfax also reported a Russian defense official referring to the ultimatum as ”total nonsense.”


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In this the US has much less freedom of action since Poland is a member of NATO and NATO members are obligated to come to each other's defense.  So Obama isn't leading from out front, he's merely restating the obvious.

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This report of  ”unequivocal” assurance by President Obama would appear at odds with his compatriot, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Reid urged caution caution in dealing with Russia in an interview today with Politico and that ”Congress should let the situation play out for “a while” before trying to impose any new sanctions on Russia.”

“The most important thing is for us – the United States – to make sure that we don’t go off without the European community,” Reid continued.

And to think, tea party people so called radicals; are considered at fault in protocol for expressing what should happen next with this issue!

While Reid says sit tight and do nothing and Obama draws another red line at Poland. Yeah, that's the new Obama red-line, Poland. They can take the Ukraine, Georgia but if you go to Poland Obama will write another strongly worded letter.

Who speaks for the radical progressives anyway? Obama or Reid? What about the dem party schism of radicals taking over? Have the moderate democrats been silenced?
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Obama promises to defend Poland?  Oh God, they're F***ed, 
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And to think, tea party people so called radicals; are considered at fault in protocol for expressing what should happen next with this issue!

While Reid says sit tight and do nothing and Obama draws another red line at Poland. Yeah, that's the new Obama red-line, Poland. They can take the Ukraine, Georgia but if you go to Poland Obama will write another strongly worded letter.

Who speaks for the radical progressives anyway? Obama or Reid? What about the dem party schism of radicals taking over? Have the moderate democrats been silenced?


Poland isn't just another red line; NATO gets involved at that point.

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This whole thing is starting to read more and more like a WWII redux.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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This whole thing is starting to read more and more like a WWII redux.

it is, isn't it

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Obama promises to defend Poland?  Oh God, they're F***ed,

Yep...

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We have Russia moving all over Europe, the Balkans, and the M.E. We have China moving on Japan, Asia, and central Africa, and of course we have NK threatening SK.
 
Not looking too good.
 
We all know why. They want to move while Obama is Prez and America is at it's weakest point in many decades. Obama's 'peace and love' philosophy is going to get us killed.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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We have Russia moving all over Europe, the Balkans, and the M.E. We have China moving on Japan, Asia, and central Africa, and of course we have NK threatening SK.
 
Not looking too good.
 
We all know why. They want to move while Obama is Prez and America is at it's weakest point in many decades. Obama's 'peace and love' philosophy is going to get us killed.

exactly.

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It's Chamberlain all over again.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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It just keeps getting better.

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Interesting little tidbit re" Poland.

Earlier today I recommended a book "Disinformation" after watching an interview with General Pacepa this morning.  (I downloaded to Kindle)....... anyway started reading the first chapter and like the reviews said it  pulls you right in....... and by the third page it is talking about the only thing Russia has going for it isn't people - they are a declining population and actually had more people in the Cold War working to spread disinformation than they had people in their military - but what they have is oil and gas... lots of oil and gas.  Still no manyfacturing base........  and as we all know they ran pipelines through Ukraine to feed oil and gas to Europe and make them subservient.

However..... two things are currently at play.  a) we are fracking up a storm and no longer are in need of energy imports from Russia and b) POLAND has found pools of oil and gas and they, too, are fracking now...

If Poland is as successful as we've been this could neuter Russia and free up Europe from their dependence for their winter heating oil and natural gas currently coming from Russia.
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We have Russia moving all over Europe, the Balkans, and the M.E. We have China moving on Japan, Asia, and central Africa, and of course we have NK threatening SK.
 
Not looking too good.
 
We all know why. They want to move while Obama is Prez and America is at it's weakest point in many decades. Obama's 'peace and love' philosophy is going to get us killed.

Pretty much!

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The people of Poland should remember Ali Bama said: "you can keep your insurance," "the average person will save $2,500," "the Benghazi attacks were caused by a Youtube video," "there is no corruption in the IRS," and on, and on, and on  :nothappen:

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