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Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« on: March 03, 2014, 11:45:23 PM »

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By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 3/3/14 9:00 PM EST Updated: 3/3/14 11:22 PM EST

As a freshman U.S. senator in 2002, Hillary Clinton reveled in the freedom of her new position outside the White House.

Being first lady “is more of a vicarious responsibility in that you are, like everyone in the White House, there because of one person, the president,” she told The Washington Post at the time. In the Senate, “there’s a lot more opportunity to express my own opinions, to work through what I would do and how I would do it.”

Twelve years later, Clinton is inextricably tied to another administration over which she yielded only partial influence. And as President Barack Obama grapples to resolve the expanding crisis in Ukraine, the situation underscores Clinton’s dilemma as she looks toward a potential presidential run in 2016: Separating from the White House is a very difficult proposition, if it’s possible at all.

As secretary of state through Obama’s first term, Clinton was in many ways the face of the administration’s “reset” policy with Russia, an effort to establish a new relationship that focused heavily on fostering the relationship with then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

The administration’s allies argue that some positives emerged from the reset, and that trouble began with Vladimir Putin’s returned to the Russian presidency in 2012. Skeptics of the “reset” believe Putin never actually left the stage.

Either way, the conflict is another instance in which Clinton is tethered to the administration’s decisions heading into 2016 — more so than any other Democrat, with the possible exception of Vice President Joe Biden, who would be a heavy underdog against Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/hillary-clinton-ukraine-2016-election-104213.html


Put a fork in Hillary she is done. With Benghazi and now her Russian reset button (she even screwed up the Russian translation for the literal word- re-set).

Not even the media can carry her. Look for the democrats to shove the nearest token progressive woman in. Or Deval Patrick. The democrats are stuck in the radical progressive stance and Obama's record will not allow another fake center moderate candidate too easily.

Hillary has a pathetic resume'
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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 12:39:01 AM »
Hillary will say she has some kind of illness, so won't be able to run.

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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 08:20:34 AM »
Hillary will say she has some kind of illness, so won't be able to run.

I believe you are right. Her name recognition is all she had going.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 09:30:12 AM »
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"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2014, 11:47:26 AM »
No way Biden runs. Even with the media fully in the dem camp now. He can't run on Obama's record mess.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2014, 02:05:27 PM »
No way Biden runs. Even with the media fully in the dem camp now. He can't run on Obama's record mess.

Did you see the video of him at the pancake house (national pancake day) with some Canadian woman?  He sounded drunk, was wearing dark glasses to hide his eyes (indoors) and practically sitting in her lap - she kept moving away from him and he persisted... the man is a sleeze.
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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 02:35:20 PM »
Hillary will say she has some kind of illness, so won't be able to run.

If rumors are to be believed, she may well be quite ill.
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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 02:43:55 PM »
If rumors are to be believed, she may well be quite ill.

So why the charade of her and Biden- that they MAY run?

To makes people feel downtrodden that no one can beat the progressive Queen democrats?
No one else in their party has name recognition. So they are acting powerful when they have nobody?
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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Re: Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine – and 2016 – problem
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2014, 03:44:03 PM »
So why the charade of her and Biden- that they MAY run?

To makes people feel downtrodden that no one can beat the progressive Queen democrats?
No one else in their party has name recognition. So they are acting powerful when they have nobody?

Politicians always hold their options open until it is time to absolutely shit or get off the pot.  She is raising money, and that will give her a lot of power in the Dim primary, even if she doesn't run.  Perhaps she is undergoing treatment and there is a possibility it will be successful.  Or maybe the rumors aren't true at all.  There simply is no percentage in her showing her cards at this point.

Good of the party?  Hah!  All politicians are self-employed.
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