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Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« on: March 03, 2014, 04:26:19 pm »
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Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
March 3, 2014 - 4:45 AM
By Patrick Goodenough

(CNSNews.com) – During his 90-minute phone conversation with President Obama on Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin hinted that Russian military intervention in Ukraine could go beyond Crimea, the region now under effectively occupied by Russia.

That’s according to the Kremlin’s brief account of the phone call, initiated by Obama.

“Vladimir Putin stressed that in case of any further spread of violence to Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, Russia retains the right to protect its interests and the Russian-speaking population of those areas,” it said.

Roughly one-third of Ukraine as a whole is considered Russia-leaning, an area about ten times bigger than Crimea. Those are the regions where a majority voted for the pro-Russian Viktor Yanukovich – now former president – in the 2010 election, and where most first-language Russian speakers live.

In key cities in those areas, pro-Russian demonstrators rallied on Saturday, denouncing the new Western-leaning government in Kiev and calling on Moscow to intervene. Russia’s RIA Novosti news agency said Russian flags were flying over local government buildings in Kharkhiv, Donetsk and Odessa, among other eastern cities.

The Kremlin readout of the phone call said Putin had drawn Obama’s “attention to the provocative and criminal actions on the part of ultra-nationalists who are in fact being supported by the current authorities in Kiev.”

“The Russian president spoke of a real threat to the lives and health of Russian citizens and the many compatriots who are currently on Ukrainian territory,” it said.

Putin also mentioned eastern Ukraine beyond Crimea in a phone conversation with U.N. secretary-general Ban Ki-moon.

“Vladimir Putin noted that in case of any escalation of violence against the Russian-speaking population of the eastern regions of Ukraine and Crimea, Russia would not be able to stay away and would resort to whatever measures are necessary in compliance with international law,” his office said in a statement.

The White House readout of the Obama-Putin call made reference to other parts of Ukraine, too.

“The United States calls on Russia to de-escalate tensions by withdrawing its forces back to bases in Crimea and to refrain from any interference elsewhere in Ukraine,” it said.

“We have consistently said that we recognize Russia’s deep historic and cultural ties to Ukraine and the need to protect the rights of ethnic Russian and minority populations within Ukraine.  The Ukrainian government has made clear its commitment to protect the rights of all Ukrainians and to abide by Ukraine’s international commitments, and we will continue to urge them to do so.”

Moscow has accused the new Kiev authorities of discriminating against ethnic Russians, pointing to the swift abolition of a 2012 law that had enabled Ukrainian regions where more than 10 percent of the population speak Russian to declare Russia a second official language.

Russia’s border guard agency reported on Sunday that more than 140,000 Ukrainians had crossed the border into Russia over the past fortnight, figures which some Russian media reports said lent substance to Putin’s expression of concern for the safety of Russians in Ukraine.

In a teleconference briefing Sunday, one of three senior administration officials speaking on condition of anonymity said that Obama in the phone call had “flatly rejected President Putin’s arguments with regard to his rationale for moving his military into Crimea, including the illegitimacy of the government in Kiev and his assertion that Russian citizens or his – or the [Russian navy] base in Sevastopol were under direct threat.”

The official said there were reports of “occasional ethnic skirmishes in parts of the east,” while in Kharkhiv “there have been efforts to stir up ethnic Russians and Russian citizens in protest to the government.”

Asked whether Russian troops or paramilitary were behind the incitement, the official said, “We have not seen Russian military moves in the east of Ukraine [outside of Crimea] at this stage, at this point in time, but we’re watching very carefully.”

The official did voice concern that armed conflict could erupt.

“There is a very proud and fierce tradition in Ukraine of defending their sovereignty and territorial integrity. So far, Ukraine has showed and Ukrainians individually have showed marked restraint, notably led by the government, which has insisted that its own forces stay in barracks. But the longer this situation goes on, the more delicate it becomes.”
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 04:57:16 pm »
Right out of Hitler's playbook. Sudeten Russians. Look out Coney Island.
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 05:00:34 pm »
Why should he stop?

What is the hazard of not stopping?

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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 05:08:36 pm »
Why should he stop?

What is the hazard of not stopping?

Right...who is gonna stop him.....no one.
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 05:14:19 pm »
Why should he stop?

What is the hazard of not stopping?

We have been pawned. We are pawned because we are stuck with a President that is above the rule of law because he is half black. We are pawned with full demoralization, we are pawned with a state run media. We have a President that adheres to, bows and bends over to communists, marxists and terroristic muslims. Good is bad and bad is good. The true radicals (the progressive caucus) are being forced as the mainstream majority.
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 05:32:34 pm »
Obama plans to counter Putin with some expansionism of his own.

I believe he's planning to invade St. Kitts next week.
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 06:11:10 pm »
Obama plans to counter Putin with some expansionism of his own.

I believe he's planning to invade St. Kitts next week.

I believe Michelle Obama will be visiting China and they will tell her that her school lunch program is insane while she bows to their ways . If anything  Obama will be invading St Kitts with Reggie on his arm as they golf and enjoy the surf.
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 04:51:31 pm »
Biden goes there and Putin toned down. He is still not stopping his invasion but I will bet Biden paid him in money or future rollovers to stfu and curtail his invasion (or just don't brag about it) until after the US midterm elections.
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2014, 04:59:11 pm »
Biden paid him in money or future rollovers to stfu and curtail his invasion (or just don't brag about it) until after the US midterm elections.
that wouldn't surprise me in the least. Obama wants to give Ukraine 1b dollars, maybe that is the payoff?


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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2014, 05:01:19 pm »
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#Breaking: Obama says there is a "strong belief" that Russia is violating international law in #Ukraine http://politi.co/9QrlaS
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2014, 05:05:24 pm »
POLITICO ‏@politico 2m

#Breaking: Obama says there is a "strong belief" that Russia is violating international law in #Ukraine http://politi.co/9QrlaS




I'm shocked I tell you, simply shocked!  How "unexpected."

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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2014, 05:06:45 pm »
POLITICO ‏@politico 2m

#Breaking: Obama says there is a "strong belief" that Russia is violating international law in #Ukraine http://politi.co/9QrlaS

Strong belief? lol they would say that was BREAKING news and not the big DUH that it is. It took Obama this long to get permission from the UN to mirror their thoughts?
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Re: Putin Hints That He May Not Stop at Crimea
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2014, 05:12:22 pm »
Biden goes there and Putin toned down. He is still not stopping his invasion but I will bet Biden paid him in money or future rollovers to stfu and curtail his invasion (or just don't brag about it) until after the US midterm elections.

If you think about it, it is to Putin's advantage to keep these donkey's asses in office. 
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