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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 01:58:34 PM »
Since 911 they've built over 2200 mosques in the USA.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 02:06:21 PM »
I'm not sure why this is news.  Churches are bought and sold right and left in his country.  That's what freedom is all about.  If you have the money, you buy what you want and you do what you want with it.  The fact that you might do something I might object to only matters insofar as what you do violates my rights.  I don't see any evidence from the story that these Muslims are violating anyone's rights.

If peaceful Muslims aren't safe in this country, then neither are peaceful gun owners.
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 02:10:00 PM »
I don't know what's worse, turning churches into mosques or into brewpubs.

What am I saying? Of course it's the former.
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 02:30:57 PM »
Since 911 they've built over 2200 mosques in the USA.

Not a problem!!  We all need to be open minded, tolerant, and embrace them!!  (and yes, I will use a /sarc tag so there is no confusion!!)

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 02:34:26 PM »
If they harm nobody, I see no reason to get up in arms about their exercise of religious freedom.

I would draw the line at female genital mutilation, until the age of consent is reached.

And I will object strenuously to significant government funding to them, more than any other "legitimate" recipients.*

*Legitimate means open to all. IOW youth sports programs, for everybody, not just for blacks or muslims.

 
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 08:32:32 PM »
[[ Since 911 they've built over 2200 mosques in the USA. ]]

There should be no mosques in the USA.
Nor anywhere else in the Western World.

Mosques belong in dar el-islam.
Nowhere else.

This particular mosque is "more than another mosque". It is symbolic in nature, representing the replacement of Chrisitanity by islam. And will be repeated in the future.

Who's winning?

Aside: even though there is a small contingent of muslims in Iceland, I don't believe the Icelandics have permitted a mosque to be built in that country (at least this was up until a few years ago). Those people have the right idea!
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2014, 08:56:54 PM »
[[ Since 911 they've built over 2200 mosques in the USA. ]]

There should be no mosques in the USA.
Nor anywhere else in the Western World.

Mosques belong in dar el-islam.
Nowhere else.

This particular mosque is "more than another mosque". It is symbolic in nature, representing the replacement of Chrisitanity by islam. And will be repeated in the future.

Who's winning?

Aside: even though there is a small contingent of muslims in Iceland, I don't believe the Icelandics have permitted a mosque to be built in that country (at least this was up until a few years ago). Those people have the right idea!

Agreed, on all counts.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2014, 09:01:51 PM »
[[ Since 911 they've built over 2200 mosques in the USA. ]]

There should be no mosques in the USA.
Nor anywhere else in the Western World.

Mosques belong in dar el-islam.
Nowhere else.

This particular mosque is "more than another mosque". It is symbolic in nature, representing the replacement of Chrisitanity by islam. And will be repeated in the future.

Who's winning?

Aside: even though there is a small contingent of muslims in Iceland, I don't believe the Icelandics have permitted a mosque to be built in that country (at least this was up until a few years ago). Those people have the right idea!

With respect, I disagree. If they are in a mosque, you know where they are and can hear what they say. Meeting in small groups in unknown rooms across the nation is how Christianity survived, thrived and eventually took over the Roman Empire.
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2014, 09:08:16 PM »
Wow people on here don't care do they not look and see what has happened in other countries once the cult of Islam numbers are large? It is not a religion never was and isn't now it is a cult and you must remember their goal is to kill off or have you convert to their cult their whole Koran speaks of this. There are no moderate Muslims just those waiting silently till their numbers reach what they need to take us over. It has happened in other countries and will happen here because of people like you who are tolerant of the intolerable cult. I am glad I am 68 in Obama's kill off the seniors time so I won't have to see it happen here. I wish Americans had some balls but I have noticed lately most don't they will sit and watch things collapse around them while saying how peaceful the people who are plotting to kill them are.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2014, 09:13:53 PM »
Wow people on here don't care do they not look and see what has happened in other countries once the cult of Islam numbers are large? It is not a religion never was and isn't now it is a cult and you must remember their goal is to kill off or have you convert to their cult their whole Koran speaks of this. There are no moderate Muslims just those waiting silently till their numbers reach what they need to take us over. It has happened in other countries and will happen here because of people like you who are tolerant of the intolerable cult. I am glad I am 68 in Obama's kill off the seniors time so I won't have to see it happen here. I wish Americans had some balls but I have noticed lately most don't they will sit and watch things collapse around them while saying how peaceful the people who are plotting to kill them are.

Knowing what goes on in these mosques -- nope don't want them or their religion here... sorry if that offends anyone.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2014, 09:22:06 PM »
Wow people on here don't care do they not look and see what has happened in other countries once the cult of Islam numbers are large? It is not a religion never was and isn't now it is a cult and you must remember their goal is to kill off or have you convert to their cult their whole Koran speaks of this. There are no moderate Muslims just those waiting silently till their numbers reach what they need to take us over. It has happened in other countries and will happen here because of people like you who are tolerant of the intolerable cult. I am glad I am 68 in Obama's kill off the seniors time so I won't have to see it happen here. I wish Americans had some balls but I have noticed lately most don't they will sit and watch things collapse around them while saying how peaceful the people who are plotting to kill them are.

It is because too many have bought into the lie that it is a "religion" when all objective assessments show that to be completely false.  There have been enough threads here and elsewhere that explain it very clearly, but many will persist in sticking with what Cultural marxism (i.e., what "PC" really is) tells them.  And because most insist that it be treated as a religion, they protect it as a religious liberty issue.  And that is exactly one of the main assumptions that their Civilization Jihad is based upon, that the cultural, societal, and governmental institutions of the West will actually offer them "protection" as they infest every aspect of society until their numbers grow large enough to begin the next steps.  Looking at Europe provides a very clear view to the US in about 15-20 years if things don't change drastically.  And I am not assuming that they will.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2014, 09:23:22 PM »
Knowing what goes on in these mosques -- nope don't want them or their religion here... sorry if that offends anyone.

I agree, but I wonder if you may want to re-consider the use of the word "religion" with regard to that evil.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2014, 09:25:51 PM »
I agree, but I wonder if you may want to re-consider the use of the word "religion" with regard to that evil.

Good point.

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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2014, 08:31:56 AM »
I'm not sure why this is news.  Churches are bought and sold right and left in his country.  That's what freedom is all about.  If you have the money, you buy what you want and you do what you want with it.  The fact that you might do something I might object to only matters insofar as what you do violates my rights.  I don't see any evidence from the story that these Muslims are violating anyone's rights.

If peaceful Muslims aren't safe in this country, then neither are peaceful gun owners.

The difference is Obama will protect the "rights" of muslims, but not the rights of gun owners.
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2014, 08:51:14 AM »
The difference is Obama will protect the "rights" of muslims, but not the rights of gun owners.

Freedom loving people should recognize that ALL individuals are endowed with certain inalienable rights. 

What makes freedom hard is recognizing that these rights confer upon those we disagree with.  I agree that Islam has very serious tenets that are potentially dangerous to the west.  However, in our system we do not punish thought or ideas.  We punish behavior.  Until or unless an individual's BEHAVIOR results in lawlessness, he has first amendment rights.

Just because OPapaDoc recognizes one group's rights ahead of others, doesn't mean we should.
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2014, 05:28:48 PM »
I understand what you are saying but we should be honest and recognize this is not the America you and I grew up in.  That means there are the influences of parties, just as Washington warned against in his Farewell Address.  The truth is many groups are now freer than others, have more rights backed by the government than others, and that is likely to get worse until the country collapses.
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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: Lincoln, Nebraska: Muslim immigrants transform a church into a mosque
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2014, 08:18:26 PM »
[[ Freedom loving people should recognize that ALL individuals are endowed with certain inalienable rights.  ]]

That's a beautiful dream, but it's going to destroy us in the end.

You cannot give to some "rights" which they will use to slowly but effectively undermine the construct of Western Civilization.

In this respect, Thomas Jefferson made a grave error when he wrote that famous line in the Declaration.

Unless we wake up, we are going to pay dearly for Mr. Jefferson's blind spot...


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