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Holder's call to let ex-felons vote divides Senate Democrats
« on: March 01, 2014, 05:17:27 PM »

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Re: Holder's call to let ex-felons vote divides Senate Democrats
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 01:48:02 AM »
If you've paid your debt to society and have gotten back on the right side of the law, then you're ready to assume your place in civil society and should be given back all of the rights that go along with that position, including the right to vote.

Holder in this instance is correct; it's the right thing to do.

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Re: Holder's call to let ex-felons vote divides Senate Democrats
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 02:42:08 AM »
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I'd put it on a sliding scale though, and not grant it straight away. Say a year after completion of ALL punishment for the small stuff. If you are released on parole you can't vote until a year after the parole period is up. Most recidivists are caught again in the first year after being released.
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Re: Holder's call to let ex-felons vote divides Senate Democrats
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 07:25:09 AM »
Holder's motive is directed towards blacks and the fact that they make up the largest number of felons.  According to him, it's all our fault and he wants to rectify the situation.
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Re: Holder's call to let ex-felons vote divides Senate Democrats
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 07:41:16 AM »
Holder's motive is directed towards blacks and the fact that they make up the largest number of felons.  According to him, it's all our fault and he wants to rectify the situation.

It's his own department's fault and he knows it.

In this case though, it's not who benefits, but what is right.

Give you a hypothetical: A 21 year old male goes out, has a few drinks at a party. There is some obnoxious prat there, harassing the women and being a danger to others. Our male, getting annoyed at his friends being bothered, asks the prat to leave. The prat refuses. Judgement slightly impaired by the drinking, our male punches him. Once. Knocks him out completely, just as the police arrive and see the punch but nothing that happened before. Co-operates with the police totally.

Felony assault. Taken into custody, bailed, court date set. Because most of the party goers were underage, no one is willing to come forward as witness. He gets a couple months probation and now has a felony rap for the rest of his life.

The judge didn't think he's a risk. The police don't think he's a risk. So why should he be barred from voting one his parole is up?
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