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Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« on: February 28, 2014, 10:57:59 AM »
http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/briefs/x958449016/Noah-s-ark-project-in-Ky-to-move-forward

Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
Feb. 28, 2014 @ 08:11 AM
The Associated Press


LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A Christian ministry’s long-stalled plans to build Noah’s Ark in the hills of Kentucky have been revived.

Creation Museum founder Ken Ham announced Thursday that a municipal bond offering has raised enough money to begin construction on the Ark Encounter project, estimated to cost about $73 million.

Groundbreaking is planned for May and the ark is expected to be finished by the summer of 2016.

Ham said a high-profile evolution debate he had with “Science Guy” Bill Nye earlier this month helped boost support for the project.

Nye said he was “heartbroken and sickened for the Commonwealth of Kentucky” after learning that the project would move forward.
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 10:59:40 AM »
The last paragraph in the article made me snicker. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 04:26:34 PM »
The last paragraph in the article made me snicker.
Really. Don't take it so personally, Bill!
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 04:34:31 PM »
There was no Noah.

Check out the Epic of Gilgamesh if you're not familiar with it. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 04:47:05 PM »
how did someone get the right to use funds from a municipal bond offering - the local taxpayers - to build something that is avowedly religious?

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 04:52:04 PM »
how did someone get the right to use funds from a municipal bond offering - the local taxpayers - to build something that is avowedly religious?

I think the Noah's Ark is being built at the Creation Museum, which I think might be a tourist attraction.  It could be argued that it brings money to the area. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 04:52:18 PM »
how did someone get the right to use funds from a municipal bond offering - the local taxpayers - to build something that is avowedly religious?

Good question.   Is the Creation Museum jointly owned by the City of Louisville?
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 04:52:55 PM »
I think the Noah's Ark is being built at the Creation Museum, which I think might be a tourist attraction.  It could be argued that it brings money to the area.

So do strip clubs but nobody is arguing they should be provided bond money.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 04:53:13 PM »
There was no Noah.

Check out the Epic of Gilgamesh if you're not familiar with it. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh


One man's Gilgamesh is another man's Noah.   :beer:
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 04:55:53 PM »
So do strip clubs but nobody is arguing they should be provided bond money.

Well, strip clubs tend to attract criminal elements sometimes, I doubt that they have had that kind of problem with the visitors to the Creation Museum.  I went to their website, and it sounds like it is quite an attraction - like an amusement park with lots of activities.  Sounded kind of fun!
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 04:56:11 PM »
how did someone get the right to use funds from a municipal bond offering - the local taxpayers - to build something that is avowedly religious?
The private religion-affiliated (Christian Church Disciples of Christ) college in my area got the county to issue bonds to build their dorms a few years back, and we found that offensive. I oppose issuing gov't bonds to benefit a private entity, religious or not.
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 04:57:22 PM »
I think the Noah's Ark is being built at the Creation Museum, which I think might be a tourist attraction.  It could be argued that it brings money to the area. 

I'm sure it will bring some money in, but that doesn't justify spending public money to fund a private religious building.

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 04:57:49 PM »
When I went to this link I saw the breaking news that jug ears is making a statement on the Ukraine.  :chairbang:

Anyway, a little more info on the threads subject.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/28/noah-ark-project-in-kentucky-to-move-forward/
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2014, 05:04:34 PM »
When I went to this link I saw the breaking news that jug ears is making a statement on the Ukraine.  :chairbang:

Anyway, a little more info on the threads subject.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/28/noah-ark-project-in-kentucky-to-move-forward/


Thanks for the link Gazoo.  From the link:

"The bonds are to be repaid through revenue from the park, and the city is not liable for the money, according to bond documents"
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2014, 05:07:42 PM »
From the article:

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The bonds are to be repaid through revenue from the park, and the city is not liable for the money, according to bond documents.


That would make them so-called private activity bonds.  The interest on these is probably fully tax-exempt because they're probably treated as qualified 501(c)(3) bonds.

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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2014, 08:21:00 PM »
There was no Noah.

Check out the Epic of Gilgamesh if you're not familiar with it. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh


FWIW, there have been many stories about a flood..
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2014, 02:31:20 PM »
Well, strip clubs tend to attract criminal elements sometimes,

Well if the government was involved with strip clubs there would be no criminal element!  Just look at how honest the government is.

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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2014, 03:03:32 PM »
FWIW, there have been many stories about a flood..

I saw a documentry on the Discovery channel that proved the flood was indeed possible.

As well as this

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm
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Re: Noah’s ark project in Ky. to move forward
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2014, 03:09:41 PM »
I saw a documentry on the Discovery channel that proved the flood was indeed possible.

As well as this

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm


Anything's possible, but the details of the Noah story are highly improbable.
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2014, 03:33:04 PM »
I saw a documentry on the Discovery channel that proved the flood was indeed possible.

As well as this

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm


Personally I think Noah's ark and legend of Atlantis seem to go hand in hand..
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2014, 03:34:51 PM »
Personally I think Noah's ark and legend of Atlantis seem to go hand in hand..

I don't think either was legend.
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2014, 03:38:06 PM »
I don't think either was legend.

I agree.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2014, 03:28:16 PM »
There was no Noah.

Check out the Epic of Gilgamesh if you're not familiar with it. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh


People have been doubting the Noah story since Noah’s neighbor looked out his window and said “dang,  it looks like rain.”    That “doubt” is the Noah story.  Not the rain, not the flood, not the animals, not the rainbow.    That doubt , the sins, and the chance to start over (the redemption) is the Noah story, and a prelude to the Jesus Story.
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