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Offline happyg

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« on: February 26, 2014, 04:30:32 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 04:37:37 PM »
Sink, is that you?  :nometalk:
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2014, 08:35:50 AM »
How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations - The Intercept
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 08:45:35 AM »
I heard the tail end of this story yesterday. It certainly sounds plausible.
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fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy)
I think we'll see a lot of this as the general election draws near.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 09:03:45 AM »
I heard the tail end of this story yesterday. It certainly sounds plausible.I think we'll see a lot of this as the general election draws near.

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2014, 09:08:31 AM »
Does this really surprise anyone?  This is precisely the same sort of thing that spy/covert agencies have been doing since time immemorial.  Perhaps the only real difference is the degree to which technology has faciliated this sort of agit-prop.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2014, 09:11:09 AM »
Does this really surprise anyone?  This is precisely the same sort of thing that spy/covert agencies have been doing since time immemorial.  Perhaps the only real difference is the degree to which technology has faciliated this sort of agit-prop.
Agreed. The technology makes it easier and faster.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2014, 09:14:59 AM »
Agreed. The technology makes it easier and faster.

But it hasn't started something that wasn't already taking place before.

As counterpoint, tho', there is the distinct possibility that the internet, and technology in general, can also make it easier to spot and expose, particularly since the technology allows the recording and comparison of seemingly disparate posts and posters in order to find patterns and make identifications in a way that was not possible before.

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2014, 11:26:07 AM »

Cass Sunstein wrote a 'theoretical' paper on Internet site infiltration and subversion back in 2008.



"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2014, 11:35:49 AM »
Does this really surprise anyone?  This is precisely the same sort of thing that spy/covert agencies have been doing since time immemorial.  Perhaps the only real difference is the degree to which technology has faciliated this sort of agit-prop.

Not me! The problem is that many still have great difficulty recognizing it for what it is while it is occurring!

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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2014, 11:47:00 AM »
Not me! The problem is that many still have great difficulty recognizing it for what it is while it is occurring!

That has always been the problem with agit-prop operations, which is why they can be so useful.

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 01:40:58 PM »
is this the same thing as, cyber warriors for Obama?
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2016, 04:11:29 PM »
And, don't forget who Sunstein is married to:

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On July 4, 2008, Sunstein married Samantha Power, professor of public policy at Harvard, now United States Ambassador to the United Nations, whom he met when they worked as campaign advisors to Barack Obama, their friend and his former colleague at the University of Chicago Law School.[45]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein
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