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Offline Gazoo

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Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« on: February 26, 2014, 01:09:27 pm »

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The Democratic Party is using the threat of presidential impeachment to raise money. Its website warns, “Republicans have already held their first committee hearing on impeaching President Obama,” and urges donors to protect the Democratic majority in the U.S. Senate. That’s one way to stop impeachment. Here’s a better way: Tell the president to obey the law.

Putting the nation through the ordeal of impeachment would be drastic. But the framers of the Constitution designed impeachment to stop precisely what President Barack Obama is doing: grabbing for more power than the Constitution allows. The nation has impeached a president only twice in over 200 years, and in neither case did the president’s alleged misdeeds threaten the survival of our system of government.    This time is different.

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It took another century before Congress was on the verge of impeaching a president. On July 27, 1974, the House Judiciary Committee recommended President Richard Nixon be impeached for his part in the Watergate break-in, false statements to federal investigators and the American people about it, and misuse of the IRS. Rep. Hamilton Fish, R-N.Y., expressed what the committee as a whole seemed to feel, “deep reluctance.” Nixon resigned, averting impeachment.

Twenty-four years later, Congress actually voted to impeach President Bill Clinton, this time for criminality. The House voted on two articles of impeachment: one for perjury in a trial involving the sexual harassment of Paula Jones, and another charge for evading the House Judiciary Committee’s questions regarding his sexual shenanigans with White House aide Monica Lewinsky. At the Senate trial, two moments were decisive. The first was when Sen. Tom Harkin insisted the Senate take into account not only the evidence but also the consequences of impeachment for the nation. The second was when the president’s defense attorney told senators they were free to “find his personal conduct distasteful, ” but their task was to decide whether the president’s actions “so put at risk the government the framers created that there is only one solution.” Clinton’s disgraceful behavior didn’t meet that standard.

Perhaps that’s why the impeachment process backfired on Clinton’s enemies. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicted on the eve of impeachment that Republicans would pick up 20 House seats in the November 1998 midterm elections. Instead, they lost five.

Today, the Democratic Party may be trying to exploit Americans’ understandable reluctance to impeach a president. But Republicans should be making the opposite and stronger argument. Now the grounds for impeachment would be constitutional, not political or merely criminal. Winning a sizable Republican majority in the Senate will enable the new Senate majority leader to remind the president of his duty to “see that the Laws be faithfully executed,” including the immigration laws, environmental laws and health care laws Obama has flagrantly disregarded.

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/02/26/using-the-threat-of-impeachment/
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 01:46:22 pm »
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 04:33:44 am »
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 01:53:33 am »
What happened to the days of a political party letting down their partisan guard long enough to tell their President to resign?
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 01:57:58 am »
Talk about pissing in your Wheaties!!!

Any serious talk of impeaching Obama would kill any chances to take the Senate and throw a lifeline to a politically drowning President.

The extremists ALWAYS overreach.
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 01:59:43 am »
Quote from: sinkspur on March 18, 2014, 01:57:58 am
Talk about pissing in your Wheaties!!!

Any serious talk of impeaching Obama would kill any chances to take the Senate and throw a lifeline to a politically drowning President.

The extremists ALWAYS overreach.

And could quite possibly give them the House as well.
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 02:07:06 am »
As the article says, the democrats used the threat of impeachment as a campaign tool. It didn't work. I absolutely disagree impeachment of Obama is an overreach. The way that this country is, they may not have any other recourse. It has to stop being about PC and politics sometimes.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 03:54:17 am »
Until and unless a substantial plurality of democrats agree that he should be impeached, it would be political suicide for the republicans to try it.
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 04:43:49 am »
It wouldn't surprise me if they started moving towards impeachment, the Birthers would want to get into the act.

Where has Orly been? Isn't Sheriff Joe supposed to have another earthshattering expose coming up?

It would assuredly throw Obama a lifeline, when he is making messes on his own.
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 01:28:30 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on March 18, 2014, 04:43:49 am
It wouldn't surprise me if they started moving towards impeachment, the Birthers would want to get into the act.

Where has Orly been? Isn't Sheriff Joe supposed to have another earthshattering expose coming up?

It would assuredly throw Obama a lifeline, when he is making messes on his own.

Why are you bringing birthers up? No one said a word about anything to do with this issue. Do you really think that calling a group and a person nuts is still a working strategy, in defense of Obama? The racism card is tired and worn. The birther card is a moot issue at this point.
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Re: Using The Threat Of Impeachment
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 08:30:22 am »
And may I kindly ask, why you diss Sheriff Joe? What did he ever do to you? Seriously.
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