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The Ted Cruz Majority
« on: February 21, 2014, 08:57:22 AM »

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 09:18:11 AM »
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Excellent article by Mr. Lord!!  He really nails it.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 10:28:21 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 10:37:34 AM »
Yet another EXCELLENT offering from Jeff Lord!

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 11:32:14 AM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 11:42:37 AM »
Do you work in the GOP? This in my view would be the only way that you could put them up on such a high pedestal.

I don't even understand what that means.  I don't have anybody on a pedestal.  But Reagan knew how to draw Democrats, Independents and Republicans together.

Ted Cruz can't even appeal to the majority of Republicans. 
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 12:23:42 PM »
I don't even understand what that means.  I don't have anybody on a pedestal.  But Reagan knew how to draw Democrats, Independents and Republicans together.

Ted Cruz can't even appeal to the majority of Republicans.

The GOP has no appeal. Boehner and Reagan cannot be compared. The GOP approval ratings are horrific because their own are fed up with them.

I will quote from the article posted here the other day.

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The Republican establishment has more than a tactical deficiency, however. They seem to have no principle that they offer or follow with any consistency. Their lack of articulation may be just a reflection of that lack of principle. It is hard to get to the point when you have no point to get to.

Ted Cruz filled a void. But the Republican establishment created the void.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/02/20/cruz_control_part_ii_121650.html

 

Where is the republicans leaders voice on the FCC supposedly trying to give Obama control and compromise the free press

and this?

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/late-night-television-jay-leno-jimmy-fallon-comedy-103751.html

Late night has been controlled and changed to use as a campaign tool for Obama and the democrats. (They are desperate to do ANYTHING for the midterms, it seems)  Will Boehner and McCain go on Jimmy Fallon and campaign for Obama some more and say they shut down the government?
« Last Edit: February 21, 2014, 12:28:54 PM by Gazoo »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 01:06:39 PM »
I don't even understand what that means.  I don't have anybody on a pedestal.  But Reagan knew how to draw Democrats, Independents and Republicans together.

Ted Cruz can't even appeal to the majority of Republicans.


You need to read Reagan's diaries and clearly you skimmed over much of this article written by someone who knew Reagan very well for s very, very long time.  You abject hatred for Cruz and Palin before him has really wrapped you thinking.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2014, 01:40:39 PM »

You need to read Reagan's diaries and clearly you skimmed over much of this article written by someone who knew Reagan very well for s very, very long time.  You abject hatred for Cruz and Palin before him has really wrapped you thinking.

I didn't skim the article. I lived through Reagan just as you did.  He in NO WAY resembled the stridency of a Ted Cruz.  And he was willing to get 80% of what he wanted and try for the rest later.

If Lord thinks Cruz can bring together anything resembling the Reagan coalition, he's entered senility.
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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2014, 01:44:42 PM »
The GOP has no appeal. Boehner and Reagan cannot be compared. The GOP approval ratings are horrific because their own are fed up with them.

I will quote from the article posted here the other day.

Where is the republicans leaders voice on the FCC supposedly trying to give Obama control and compromise the free press

and this?

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/late-night-television-jay-leno-jimmy-fallon-comedy-103751.html

Late night has been controlled and changed to use as a campaign tool for Obama and the democrats. (They are desperate to do ANYTHING for the midterms, it seems)  Will Boehner and McCain go on Jimmy Fallon and campaign for Obama some more and say they shut down the government?

You and I don't live in the same world. 

Your world is the Tea party world where everyone agrees with you or you turn your back on them.

I live in the real world, where compromises are made, negotiations are held, and everybody gets something but nobody gets everything.  THAT is the world that most Americans live in, which is why they don't understand shutting down the government or bringing the nation to the verge of default in a futile effort to GET WHAT I WANT OR ELSE!!!

Who the hell cares about late night?  Most Americans don't watch late night television and aren't influenced by it.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2014, 01:54:27 PM »
I also  live in the real world, where compromises are made, negotiations are held,  without compromising my core beliefs. If I would do so, I'd be a weakling, and no better than the GOP.  In today's world, compromise by republicans leads to more socialism. The foot is already in the door.

You keep bringing up Reagan, and how he compromised. It was mostly democrats who did the bending, but the dems were a different bread back then. Reagan also used his veto pen, and was not always backed by republicans. He was ridiculed even worse than the crap Cruz is taking.  Even with the garbage flying, Reagan managed to get 49 states. He got all but 13 electoral votes. What a shock to both sides, who thought of Ronald as a jelly bean lover, and Bedtime for Bonzo actor.

At this point, Cruz shows even more conservatism as Reagan did in the same stage. And, Cruz looks up to Reagan as a role model. So all the digs are going in one ear and out the other.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2014, 01:58:41 PM »
I also  live in the real world, where compromises are made, negotiations are held,  without compromising my core beliefs. If I would do so, I'd be a weakling, and no better than the GOP.  In today's world, compromise by republicans leads to more socialism. The foot is already in the door.

You keep bringing up Reagan, and how he compromised. It was mostly democrats who did the bending, but the dems were a different bread back then. Reagan also used his veto pen, and was not always backed by republicans. He was ridiculed even worse than the crap Cruz is taking.  Even with the garbage flying, Reagan managed to get 49 states. He got all but 13 electoral votes. What a shock to both sides, who thought of Ronald as a jelly bean lover, and Bedtime for Bonzo actor.

At this point, Cruz shows even more conservatism as Reagan did in the same stage. And, Cruz looks up to Reagan as a role model. So all the digs are going in one ear and out the other.

Again, Cruz has a long way to go to come anywhere near the style and substance of Ronald Reagan.  Democrats did some bending, but so did Reagan (who raised taxes three times as President).  He also signed the last major amnesty for illegal aliens.  He bent a helluva lot more than Ted Cruz has.

Do you think Ted Cruz could carry 49 states if he ran for President?  He'd have to get nominated first, and that is a long long way from ever happening.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2014, 02:01:30 PM »
"She only coughs when she lies."

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2014, 02:02:37 PM »
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Fell for that for a LONG time until I saw the result! NO MORE!

NOTHING is futile unless you make it so!

You cannot win battles you never fight!

You miss every shot you don't take!

You cannot win battles you cannot win.  Cruz has, so far, engaged in two major battles that he KNEW he would lose before he ever fought them. 

He's either stupid or he's winning because he keeps those cards and letters coming. 
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2014, 02:05:02 PM »
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Do you think Ted Cruz could carry 49 states if he ran for President?  He'd have to get nominated first, and that is a long long way from ever happening.

Reagan did that his second term. His first term, he beat Carter 51% - 40%, which is a landslide, and it's possible for Cruz to come close, if he chooses to run.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2014, 02:06:48 PM »
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2014, 02:08:09 PM »
Reagan did that his second term. His first term, he beat Carter 51% - 40%, which is a landslide, and it's possible for Cruz to come close, if he chooses to run.

Ted Cruz will only have a chance at being nominated if he stops taking his party to the brink every time he gets the opportunity.
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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2014, 02:13:38 PM »
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...bringing the nation to the verge of default ...

Kinda surprised to see that in a thread here.....   didn't think that anyone bought into that ginned up fiction.....  Oh well!!

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2014, 02:17:38 PM »
You cannot win battles you cannot win.  Cruz has, so far, engaged in two major battles that he KNEW he would lose before he ever fought them. 

He's either stupid or he's winning because he keeps those cards and letters coming.

Whatever they are paying you isn't enough Sink! You are a like an old 45 record stuck in a grove.  SAME CRAP over and over again!

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2014, 02:22:31 PM »
Kinda surprised to see that in a thread here.....   didn't think that anyone bought into that ginned up fiction.....  Oh well!!

The markets buy into it.  Some fiction.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2014, 02:23:11 PM »
Whatever they are paying you isn't enough Sink! You are a like an old 45 record stuck in a grove.  SAME CRAP over and over again!

So then don't read it.  Whatever happened to your partner in crime Cincinnatus? 
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: The Ted Cruz Majority
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2014, 03:09:18 PM »
He also signed the last major amnesty for illegal aliens. 

And that accomplished what?

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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2014, 03:31:59 PM »
And that accomplished what?

Nothing.  The example was included to show that even the sainted Reagan made some major mistakes.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.


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