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Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« on: February 20, 2014, 08:34:00 AM »

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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 09:50:59 PM »
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The violence continues to escalate on both sides.  The video coming out of Kiev is appalling.  This has gone well past the point of mere protest and they are banging on civil war right now.

My biggest fear is what will most certainly happen when the Russians decide they have had enough and intervene on the side of the Ukrainian government, such as it is.  This could turn into a bloodbath like not even the Soviets pulled off.  The situation is very serious and getting worse.




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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 09:52:35 PM »
What is it to stop Putin? Certainly not Obama. 

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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 10:00:31 PM »
What is it to stop Putin? Certainly not Obama.

Russia will intercede, Obama will applaud them for doing so,  and the Ukrainians will be screwed yet again!
 
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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 10:10:28 PM »
Russia will intercede, Obama will applaud them for doing so,  and the Ukrainians will be screwed yet again!

and they are bordered by five NATO nations giving Putin exactly what he wants...

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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 10:25:55 PM »


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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2014, 10:30:31 PM »
and they are bordered by five NATO nations giving Putin exactly what he wants...

50% of the Ukranian people apparently want to return to Russian rule as a satellite country.


....just like 50% of the people here in our country have been duped into accepting Socialist Marxism.

So that must be taken into account.  This started as a direct result of the Ukranian president reneging on a deal where he'd break with Putin on some trade agreement....wasn't it?
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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2014, 11:02:54 PM »
50% of the Ukranian people apparently want to return to Russian rule as a satellite country.


....just like 50% of the people here in our country have been duped into accepting Socialist Marxism.

So that must be taken into account.  This started as a direct result of the Ukranian president reneging on a deal where he'd break with Putin on some trade agreement....wasn't it?

I don't think 50% of the people want Russia when their Parliament just voted, in a landslide, to pull back the "anti-terrorist"  operations and release jailed protesters. 

And I think you've all got this wrong about Obama.  He's not on Putin's side.  I think he's got a hand in this somewhere.  Showing Putin he can stir up $h!t in his back yard.   A "mine's bigger than your's" contest where civilians die.    Disgusting.

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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 11:10:48 PM »
I don't think 50% of the people want Russia when their Parliament just voted, in a landslide, to pull back the "anti-terrorist"  operations and release jailed protesters. 

And I think you've all got this wrong about Obama.  He's not on Putin's side.  I think he's got a hand in this somewhere.  Showing Putin he can stir up $h!t in his back yard.   A "mine's bigger than your's" contest where civilians die.    Disgusting.

I get the exact opposite feeling.   As far as the image between the two men.  Putin could care less if violence breaks out in Ukraine...just like Obama could care less if violence breaks out in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, or lately Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 11:20:50 PM »
I get the exact opposite feeling.   As far as the image between the two men.  Putin could care less if violence breaks out in Ukraine...just like Obama could care less if violence breaks out in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, or lately Saudi Arabia.

When you're eying the spoils of war, you can sip wine from a safe distance.

I believe you're right about Putin not caring about violence in Ukraine.  But what he does care about is the country becoming part of the EU and not under Russian influence. 

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Re: Truce Collapses in Ukraine, Violence Intensifies
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 11:58:00 PM »
I believe you're right about Putin not caring about violence in Ukraine.  But what he does care about is the country becoming part of the EU and not under Russian influence.

It's Budapest, 1956 all over again.  The Ukraine will never be allowed to fall under the EU...especially with a neutered West.
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