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Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« on: February 19, 2014, 10:16:51 PM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 10:19:04 PM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 10:30:15 PM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 05:07:03 AM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 07:23:20 AM »
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 08:47:31 AM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2014, 08:51:46 AM »
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2014, 09:02:54 AM »
I respect Dr. Sowell, totally. Enough that I won't reject anything he says out of hand.

On the one hand, Ted Cruz is pretty brash and impatient.

On the other hand, so is half of the country.

On the gripping hand, two very smart people are disagreeing.

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 09:04:41 AM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 09:21:04 AM »
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 09:28:38 AM »
Check out the comments on the DC's post of this article on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/DailyCaller/posts/10152062399463743

This goes to show there is very much a disconnect between those who are in politics (commentators, politicians, reporters, consultants, etc) and the real people out here paying our taxes. I respect Sowell a lot but what he is saying is to continue to play the game it has always been played. He is looking at the game from the game board using the game's rules. We the people are sick of the game, period. The political class wants to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 09:30:25 AM »
I respect Dr. Sowell, totally. Enough that I won't reject anything he says out of hand.

On the one hand, Ted Cruz is pretty brash and impatient.

On the other hand, so is half of the country.

On the gripping hand, two very smart people are disagreeing.

Cruz is doing exactly what he promised to do in his campaign. It should be no surprise to anyone. Your point is interesting though because what Cruz is doing is being a representative of the people who elected him and their voice in Washington.  Isn't that how it is supposed to work?  He is the brash and impatient voice of the people he promised to be.

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2014, 09:43:59 AM »
Cruz is doing exactly what he promised to do in his campaign. It should be no surprise to anyone. Your point is interesting though because what Cruz is doing is being a representative of the people who elected him and their voice in Washington.  Isn't that how it is supposed to work?  He is the brash and impatient voice of the people he promised to be.

It is how it is supposed to work but rarely does.

One of the things that bugs me is people complaining that a Rep or Senator is not a "perfect conservative." It really ticks me off - he may be your Senator, but he's also the Senator for the Dem next door.
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2014, 09:53:05 AM »
Dr. Sowell is taking the pragmatic approach and is concerned that shining light on the vampires may hurt their reelection chances.
I believe that in all other respects, he agrees with Cruz.
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2014, 09:56:48 AM »
Check out the comments on the DC's post of this article on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/DailyCaller/posts/10152062399463743

This goes to show there is very much a disconnect between those who are in politics (commentators, politicians, reporters, consultants, etc) and the real people out here paying our taxes. I respect Sowell a lot but what he is saying is to continue to play the game it has always been played. He is looking at the game from the game board using the game's rules. We the people are sick of the game, period. The political class wants to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2014, 09:57:27 AM »
This, is the other side of the story. I don't think the Republican old guard have a clue how unpopular they are. The tradition of both parties is they chose  their party whips, leaders,speaker. It is a pecking order of major ass kissing and money flowing. The,' it's HIS turn,' mantra is as old as they are. They work for us. Just because they found out that serving is a lucrative career ( with insider trading slush funds,- aside from their six-figure salaries- most could live off of AND to boot WE pay their car notes! ) does not mean- they should be allowed- to quit serving the American people. If we returned to government of this stature serving and having in real life outside jobs- without conflict of interest-

Maybe just maybe it is a start of getting the beast calmed that has become government in this role. There is also absolutely no reasoning in why the older ones don't retire. What ever happened to term limits and did they ever vote on no more insider trading that we would go to jail for if we tried?

We have term limits.  They're called "elections." 
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2014, 09:58:46 AM »
Check out the comments on the DC's post of this article on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/DailyCaller/posts/10152062399463743

This goes to show there is very much a disconnect between those who are in politics (commentators, politicians, reporters, consultants, etc) and the real people out here paying our taxes. I respect Sowell a lot but what he is saying is to continue to play the game it has always been played. He is looking at the game from the game board using the game's rules. We the people are sick of the game, period. The political class wants to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.

This.  Very much so!!

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2014, 09:58:52 AM »
We have term limits.  They're called "elections."

Yes...and we are taking advantage of that right now!

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2014, 10:03:04 AM »
Yes, it would appear some folks don't understand that civil people - whether Mr. Sowell or posters here - can disagree without engaging in name-calling and hyperbole.

I don't understand why some people seem to tailor their posts to elicit the strongest negative reaction they can get. It's textbook troll behavior.

I like Cruz's direct approach. I have reserved judgement on Cruz because he does have earmarks of someone who is self serving, not necessarily working for the greater good.

Unfortunately for me, I hate Democrats, and hate Republicans just a little less.
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2014, 10:08:38 AM »
It is how it is supposed to work but rarely does.

One of the things that bugs me is people complaining that a Rep or Senator is not a "perfect conservative." It really ticks me off - he may be your Senator, but he's also the Senator for the Dem next door.

Principals and sworn duty are not to be compromised regardless of what any members of your constituency may think, believe, or want.  If I am a House Rep (or Senator) would you expect me to represent the interests of either the avowed anarchist that wishes to destroy the government in total or the intense social conservative that wishes to mold the government into a theocracy, just because they reside in my district?  Certainly not in either case.  We need representatives that uphold their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution and operate within in its clearly described bounds, and show fidelity to the principals that they espoused to earn election.

It may bug you, but that is the it was supposed to work.

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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2014, 10:20:24 AM »
I like Cruz's direct approach. I have reserved judgement on Cruz because he does have earmarks of someone who is self serving, not necessarily working for the greater good.

Unfortunately for me, I hate Democrats, and hate Republicans just a little less.
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2014, 10:27:09 AM »
Principals and sworn duty are not to be compromised regardless of what any members of your constituency may think, believe, or want.  If I am a House Rep (or Senator) would you expect me to represent the interests of either the avowed anarchist that wishes to destroy the government in total or the intense social conservative that wishes to mold the government into a theocracy, just because they reside in my district?  Certainly not in either case.  We need representatives that uphold their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution and operate within in its clearly described bounds, and show fidelity to the principals that they espoused to earn election.

It may bug you, but that is the it was supposed to work.

That is the touchstone. Do they keep their word and guard their duties.

However - I would expect Reps to meet with any constituent and listen to them. And not give them bullshit answers, but give them the respect of being honest. "No, I can't push this, and this is why," or "Thank you for telling me about this. It will be dealt with."
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2014, 10:32:39 AM »

We have term limits.  They're called "elections." 

Yes...and we are taking advantage of that right now!

And myst, if I may be so bold as to speak for others here, we are desperately trying to change the makeup of "the only other political party that has a chance." (And, darn it, we could use a little help here from those that agree with our principles and goals but disagree with our "tactics")
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Re: Conservative legend Thomas Sowell turns on Ted Cruz
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2014, 10:33:12 AM »
That is the touchstone. Do they keep their word and guard their duties.

However - I would expect Reps to meet with any constituent and listen to them. And not give them bullshit answers, but give them the respect of being honest. "No, I can't push this, and this is why," or "Thank you for telling me about this. It will be dealt with."

No quibble with that at all.  Respect and honesty, as you point out.


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