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Re: Meanwhile, in Venezuela
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2014, 04:48:31 pm »
Then again of course, there's Lord of the Flies.....scenario   :pondering:
That's what first came to mind when I read your proposal. My misbehaving nephew was spirited away from his suburban New Jersey house in the middle of the night and whisked to some isolated area in Idaho for just that sort of "tough love" discipline when he was 17 or so. Instead of learning to cooperate with others and come to and understanding of the error of his ways, he continued to misbehave even out in the wilderness and got the entire group of boys punished for his misdeeds. So they beat him up.
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Re: Meanwhile, in Venezuela
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2014, 04:51:48 pm »
That's what first came to mind when I read your proposal. My misbehaving nephew was spirited away from his suburban New Jersey house in the middle of the night and whisked to some isolated area in Idaho for just that sort of "tough love" discipline when he was 17 or so. Instead of learning to cooperate with others and come to and understanding of the error of his ways, he continued to misbehave even out in the wilderness and got the entire group of boys punished for his misdeeds. So they beat him up.

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Re: Meanwhile, in Venezuela
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2014, 05:33:10 pm »
That's what first came to mind when I read your proposal. My misbehaving nephew was spirited away from his suburban New Jersey house in the middle of the night and whisked to some isolated area in Idaho for just that sort of "tough love" discipline when he was 17 or so. Instead of learning to cooperate with others and come to and understanding of the error of his ways, he continued to misbehave even out in the wilderness and got the entire group of boys punished for his misdeeds. So they beat him up.

I can't stand Oprah but years ago she showed segments in commercial promos of a military drill instructor for troubled teens. I wonder if this really exists
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Re: Meanwhile, in Venezuela
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2014, 06:45:21 pm »
I can't stand Oprah but years ago she showed segments in commercial promos of a military drill instructor for troubled teens. I wonder if this really exists


It did.. for a while... here in AZ until a kid got hurt and the parents sued.
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Re: Meanwhile, in Venezuela
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2014, 02:50:02 am »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/03/11/Venezuela-Government-On-Grave-Torture-Campaign-To-Disfigure-Protesters-Faces

Venezuela Government Tortures, Disfigures Protesters' Faces


by Frances Martel 11 Mar 2014, 11:29 AM PDT

The Venezuelan National Guard actively aims to disfigure the faces of protesters as their repressive acts torture, injure, and kill dozens of anti-socialist student protesters. Survivors of government attacks tell Latin American news outlets that police shoot for their faces, kick, or bludgeon them with rifles.

Argentine news outlet Infobae, which has been on the cutting edge of covering the recent crop of uprisings in the South American nation, published a graphic image today of 20-year-old protester Maurizio Ottaviani, who was attending a protest in Venezuela when the National Guard appeared, and four soldiers, he explained to the publication, "beat me and forced me to the ground ... My instinct was to get into a fetal position to protect myself. They kicked me in the stomach, back, and because of the pain I failed to protect my face." He continued by saying, "One of them used his boot heel to step on the left side of my face."

Ottaviani was arrested with other protesters, whom he says were threatened with asphyxia by teargas if they did not stay quiet. He is no longer legally allowed his right of assembly after appearing before a judge in Caracas. "Venezuela is worth it," he said.

Protesters retweeted the photo of what the guards did to him:

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Ottaviani is not alone, but there have been too many cases of such attacks for all of them to make headlines. A Venezuelan government official claimed there were 44 cases of lawsuits against the state for torture, and currently 21 deaths. That official, public defender Gabriela Ramírez, justified the attacks by telling Venezuelan newspaper El Universal that "torture makes sense."

Maduro has actively censored independent media, forcing protesters to share their stories on social media while state media ignores the protests, and CNN gives Maduro a platform to tell people he sleeps "like a baby" at night. A cursory look at Venezuelan protesters on Twitter immediately uncovers an organized attempt to beat the protesters into submission. The photos quickly reveal a pattern: President Nicolás Maduro's soldiers deliberately target the faces of protesters to disfigure them and possibly shame them into not showing their faces. Below are just some of the survivors--not victims, for they kept protesting--of Maduro's repression. (Warning: graphic photos below):
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Re: Meanwhile, in Venezuela
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2014, 02:56:33 am »
Here's what they did to Sr. Ottaviani: